Posted on 05/07/2003 7:41:18 PM PDT by Pokey78
Did Bush ever promise to support an expanded version of the AWB? Seems being given one might provide him an 'out' to veto it.
Never had one of those numbers, I did use 214-XX-XXXX when I was in the army serving my country and my fellow citizens- how bout you?
Is Bush doing this out of some core constitutional belief of his, or is it a cold political calculation?
and you're going to get it by helping the rats win?
How so?
If Bush is willing to sacrifice a strong stand on the 2nd amendment when he has a 70% approval rating, what makes you think he'll make a strong stand if he is re-elected at 52%?
The "hurry up and wait" bulls!it from the RINOS is getting real old.
The excuse in 1993 was "we can't do anything until we win Congress". So we gave them control of Congress.
Then the excuse was "we can't do anything until after the 1996 election". So we waited while they ran Bob "it's my turn" Dole.
Next, the excuse was "wait until we win the White House". So we gave them the White House.
In 2002, it was "wait until we win back the Senate". So we gave them the Senate.
It's time to put up or shut up.
You got it.
Actually it was malcontents on the right wing who blamed Bush for breaking his promise and they had Perot to go to even though his wife was on the Board of Directors of planned parenthood.
Anyway CFR is completely different than taxes and if the demos say that he should have vetoed CFR, Bush will laugh right back at their face for doing a 180 on a bill they supported and pushed through Congress.
What, a sudden chill? *grin*
I'm not pleased by this- but I see much, much worse if the rats get in. My hope is a strong win, both in the presidency AND in congress will allow us to seat judges who will serve for a long time, and put the courts on our side.
The lefties have been "marching through the instituions" for forty odd years. I want to take a long view, and marginalize them. I want to do the same thing to them that they have done to us. And I don't think we can do it if we lose this election. Demographics are against us- we need to get judges in office, that will set precedents that last for decades.
It's like the education bill, All of the standards are LAW, 75% of the funding isn't and hasn't been in the budget. The Farm Bill everyone cried about, last year was the least funded of the past 15 years because of the accountability written into the bill. Funding is always a projection. It's just like the phantom 5.6 trillion dollar surplus that was only a prediction based on the hhouse of cards Clinton built. Money to be spent in the future require future legislation but the framework and accountability of the legislation doesn't.
That's pretty weak, tex.
If he supports this, he loses my vote, plain and simple. It's bad enough that he wont speak out against this, and state that he is against it. F the politics. I am sick of the PC, and incrementaly murder of our second amendment.
Enough of this BS! He's either with us or against us.
I disagree, though.
The fact that law is vague and really unenforceable makes it difficult to square with the idea that his support springs from some core constitutional belief.
But by supporting the law (both now and in 2000), he gives weight to the idea that the federal government has the right to assume such powers that are specifically denied it by the constitution.
That makes me see it as a purely political calculation, designed only to increase his support amongst moderates at the expense of conservatives.
Please dont cut and paste some thread where ever doomsdayer is predicting the end of our freedoms. Cut and paste a quote from George W. Bush that backs up your claims
"After the Gulf War of 1991, George Bush received a strong 89 percent approval rating"
And what did we get?
It's time to put up or shut up
I've already got my black rifle, and a bunch of other weapons. I want to keep them. I think it's time to slam the rats with a win they can't try to claim was stolen, get a filibuster proof majority, and put the boot in their face.
I'm not up for a "hail mary" pass- I want to grind down the field and crush them.
No, my problem IS with Bush (or any politician) if he doesn't support the 2nd amendment or any of the Bill of Rights for that matter.
It is with the majority of your sissified fellow citizens who are easily frightened and stampeded by dark tales of vicious-looking guns.
What majority is that?
A recent poll showed that a majority of democratic voters supported an individual Right to keep and bear arms. Even the dem leaders realize this, as LIEberman showed in the recent 'debate'.
Also, CCW laws have passed in 35 states, including 2 this year alone that Bush lost in 2000 (New Mexico and Minnesota).
Not to mention that many senior congressmen lost their jobs in 1994 SOLELY on the gun issue.
The idea that the gun issue is a losing one for Republicans is absurd. However, it will eventually be a losing issue if the elites continue passing laws against the gun culture, thus indoctrinating young Americans against the 2nd amendment.
You need to educate them.
Yeah, it's not helping that the RINO leadership is doing nothing to do so.
They will decide that there is no individual right for citizens to possess firearms of any kind and inform the government it has the power to confiscate any and all firearms it desires. What will you do then?
I'll be defending the Constitution, and it won't be from a keyboard anymore.
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