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Live Thread: 1st, full Broadcast of DEM PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE DEBATE now on C-SPAN [6:30pm EST]

Posted on 05/04/2003 3:49:37 PM PDT by summer

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To: summer
Well, until the hospitals and doctors get the medical costs under control, the underwriters are going to be very cagey. And for all the reasons I stated before, they are just NOT going to write for opt-ins.

It's kind of a Gordian knot, but if the medical costs are brought under control, the insurance issue will solve itself, because the underwriters will relax their standards. I think that's the logical place to attack this, rather than forcing the insurers to lose money (they will just quit the business altogether in that case.)

221 posted on 05/04/2003 8:07:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
forcing the insurers to lose money

At some point, 41 million people may finally get very tired and fed up of being forced to go without health insurance.
222 posted on 05/04/2003 8:16:17 PM PDT by summer
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To: unspun
Re your post #220 - LOL...
223 posted on 05/04/2003 8:16:50 PM PDT by summer
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To: OldFriend
You got that right!!!
224 posted on 05/04/2003 10:40:21 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: summer
 

 

hyperlinked images of shame
copyright Mia T 2003.

by Mia T, 4.6.03

 

If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.

 

Mia T, THE ALIENS

 

Al From is sounding the alarm. "Unless we convince Americans that Democrats are strong on national security," he warns his party, "Democrats will continue to lose elections."

Helloooo? That the Democrats have to be spoon-fed what should be axiomatic post-9/11 is, in and of itself, incontrovertible proof that From's advice is insufficient to solve their problem.

From's failure to fully lay out the nature of the Democrats' problem is not surprising: he is the guy who helped seal his party's fate. It was his Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) that institutionalized the proximate cause of the problem, clintonism, and legitimized its two eponymic provincial operators on the national stage. The "Third Way" and "triangulation" don't come from the same Latin root for no reason.

That "convince" is From's operative word underscores the Democrats' dilemma. Nine-eleven was transformative. It is no longer sufficient merely to convince. One must demonstrate, demonstrate convincingly, if you will… which means both in real time and historically.

When it comes to national security, Americans will no longer take any chances. Turning the turn of phrase back on itself, the era of the Placebo President is over. (Incidentally, the oft-quote out-of-context sentence fragment alluded to here transformed meaningless clinton triangulation into a meaningful if deceptive soundbite.)

Although From is loath to admit it -- the terror in his eyes belies his facile solution -- the Democratic party's problem transcends its anti-war contingent.

With a philosophy that relinquishes our national sovereignty -- and relinquishes it reflexively… and to the UN no less -- the Democratic party is, by definition, the party of national insecurity.

With policy ruled by pathologic self-interest -- witness the "Lieberman Paradigm," Kerry's "regime change" bon mot (gone bad), Edwards' and the clintons' brazen echoes thereof (or, alternatively, Pelosi's less strident wartime non-putdown putdown)… and, of course, the clincher -- eight years of the clintons' infantilism, grotesquerie and utter failure -- the Democratic party is, historically and in real time, the party of national insecurity.

The Democrats used to be able to wallpaper their national insecurity with dollars and demogoguery. But that was before 9/11.



225 posted on 05/05/2003 3:18:26 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: summer
Carol Braun Mosley just said GW "ruined this economy" and is an "unelected president."

Q ERTY8 The Curious Candidacy of Carol Moseley-Braun bump

The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime

226 posted on 05/05/2003 3:25:00 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: bart99
As long as bubba and mcawful are holding the purse strings nothing will be done without their permission.
227 posted on 05/05/2003 8:36:17 AM PDT by OldFriend (without the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I watched the first 20 minutes of this debate, which was as much as I could stand.

Watching this debate was ghoulishly fascinating for about the first ten minutes. What a bunch of LOSERS those nine are!!! There's something fascinating/amusing about candidates like Kucinich, Mosely-Braun or Lurch Kerry. What in the world were they smoking when they convinced themselves they could beat President Bush in 2004? It must be their massive egoes, plus the fact that they live in a self-created world of sh*t.

Anyway, nausea set in after the first ten minutes and I had to switch channels.

228 posted on 05/05/2003 10:58:35 AM PDT by RooRoobird14
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