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Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) - Multi-country outbreak - Update 44
World Health Organization ^ | 1 May 2003

Posted on 05/02/2003 9:00:59 PM PDT by Nov3

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Just a reminder that a foolproof test has not been developed. Certainly some of the cases included in the totals are almost definitely not SARS but viral pnuemonia. This is good and bad. It means the disease is not quite as widespread. It also means that the death rate is probably higher than the stats show because other diseases with the symptoms of SARS do not have near the death rate SARS does and as such dilute the results.

We have made amazing progress with this disease given how badly the ChiComs handled the situation.

1 posted on 05/02/2003 9:00:59 PM PDT by Nov3
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To: Nov3
"It means the disease is not quite as widespread."

It doesn't? It's spreading through Florida one county at a time and a 12 year old boy who went to Toronto but did not visit any hospitals has contracted the disease in Central Florida (Polk County to be exact). And of course the health department and schools were clueless and now after spending several days in school, there is a huge concern. I think this is the tip of the iceburg. Thankfully there are not as many Canadians coming down here this time of year.

If I can find the map of SARS cases by county in Florida, I'll post it. They showed it on the news tonight and it is beginning to remind you of all the red and blue maps from the election.
2 posted on 05/02/2003 9:09:50 PM PDT by Beck_isright (If a Frenchman and a German farted in the Ardennes, would Belgium surrender?)
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To: Nov3
The real question is this -- are the total cases in the PRC doubling every 2 weeks? Because if this is true, do the math and you will see some really, really big numbers come next fall.
3 posted on 05/02/2003 9:38:00 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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Well it was 3500 cases world-wide on April 25th and today (one week later) it is 6300 cases. Quite alarming IMO.
4 posted on 05/02/2003 9:47:21 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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Hmmm...but lets say only every two weeks.
12,600 by mid May.
25,000 by June.
50K mid June.
100K by July.
200K mid July.
400K by August.
Lets hope not because if this trend occurred we are talking serious panic -- the kind where Russia and India might decided to "sterilize" the problem in the PRC -- and of course they can respond in kind.
5 posted on 05/02/2003 9:56:44 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: dc-zoo; Judith Anne; Mother Abigail; CathyRyan; per loin; Dog Gone; Petronski; InShanghai; Ma Li; ..
Isn't that increase mainly China catching up with its lies?
6 posted on 05/03/2003 6:13:52 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: dark_lord
The present case count could be much higher if they were all accounted for and reported. If the current progression continues we could be in for a disaster of biblical proportion.
7 posted on 05/03/2003 7:20:37 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Nov3
We have shown that SARS can be contained and controlled in large cities with quick reactions and excellent medical facilities, although it may cause several hundred health workers to get the illness in the process.

But since China allowed over a million people, some of whom undoubtedly were exposed to the virus, to scatter around the entire country, we're going to see what happens when it can't be addressed with those measures. It doesn't look encouraging, and perhaps the only realistic positive outcome would be to see that the virus is mutating into something less dangerous.

8 posted on 05/03/2003 7:51:42 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Allan
Ping.
9 posted on 05/03/2003 8:11:07 AM PDT by keri
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To: Dog Gone
I honestly don't think that the virus will mutate into something less dangerous. My theory is that this is the common cold mutated into something MORE dangerous, in the bacterial-viral soup of rural China.
10 posted on 05/03/2003 8:23:37 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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large cities with quick reactions and excellent medical facilities, although it may cause several hundred health workers to get the illness in the process.

It seems possible to me that it's the large cities and medical facilities themselves that might be what caused the illness to be severe and spread the way it did. It's hard to believe that a disease made it from Chinese hospitals to Toronto hospitals but skipped all the small towns and non-hospital areas in between.

11 posted on 05/03/2003 8:31:19 AM PDT by FITZ
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To the best of my knowledge, most if not all the SARS cases in Canada can be traced back to one person who came to Canada from China.
12 posted on 05/03/2003 8:34:10 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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We already know that it has evolved into two distinct strains. It stands to reason that it will continue to mutate, some becoming more benign, and some becoming even worse. Making a vaccine may prove impossible against so many different strains.

I'm hoping that the virus will weaken in rural China, and the illness will eventually die out. I don't have any reason to have that hope, but it's a nice thought, anyway.

13 posted on 05/03/2003 8:36:22 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
A very nice thought...

I'm headed out to the garden. We took down a leaning tree, time to stack firewood.
14 posted on 05/03/2003 8:38:36 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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I wonder if SARS testing has only been done on sick people ---maybe healthy people in those areas would demonstrate an antibody titer to SARS which means they were exposed but fought it off ---even without becoming sick. All of us have antibodies to diseases we never knew we had.
15 posted on 05/03/2003 8:42:16 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: dark_lord
Lets hope not because if this trend occurred we are talking serious panic -- the kind where Russia and India might decided to "sterilize" the problem in the PRC -- and of course they can respond in kind.

So unless this is contained by absolute isolation and barrier methods (and this means biting the economic bullet now not tomorrow regarding trade and travel) the odds of survival might not look good even for those who aren't at risk for the virus. Maybe it's time for nations to become isolationist for the duration.
16 posted on 05/03/2003 9:06:26 AM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...Anyone have a job for me up at the north pole? I scrub floors and do windows.)
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I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign: seven angels with the seven last plagues--last, because with them God's wrath is completed. (Rev 15:1)

Out of the temple came the seven angels with the seven plagues. They were dressed in clean, shining linen and wore golden sashes around their chests. Then one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels seven golden bowls filled with the wrath of God, who lives for ever and ever. And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God and from his power, and no one could enter the temple until the seven plagues of the seven angels were completed. (Rev 15:6-8)

17 posted on 05/03/2003 10:38:48 AM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: keri; aristeides; riri
The news tonight from China:

Medical staff is not showing up at certain hospitals
hospitals are closing down
staff are not showing up
there are no more respirators
Peking is building a prefabricated 'hospitals'
(really plywood concentration camps)
people who get a high fever for any reason hide in their homes
for fear they will be thrown into one of those hospitals
where they will be left to die.

Early reports are that the peasants are tearing up the railroads.

18 posted on 05/03/2003 9:44:51 PM PDT by Allan
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Early reports are that the peasants are tearing up the railroads.

Where did you read or hear this?

19 posted on 05/04/2003 11:18:23 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell
The usual place. B and A.
20 posted on 05/04/2003 11:21:15 PM PDT by Allan
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