PBS Offers Intelligent Design Documentary

CREATION - Evolution Headlines ^ | 04/28/2003 | Illustra Media/CREATION - Evolution Headlines

[Dimensio]

"Once again, even if you utterly disproved evolution, how would this prove the Bible correct?"

Let me make it simple, we live in a sustained environment. Think of a usable swimming pool, without continuous maintenance it would be unusable.

That does not answer my question. How would disproving evolution prove that the Bible is correct?

[Tribune7]

Your tax dollars at work

Didn't PBS recently run a long pro-evo series?

[Aric2000]

Nothing Pseudo religious about it.

Just documented fact.

Nice try though....

[balrog666]

Toilet skipping placemarker.

[PatrickHenry]

Didn't PBS recently run a long pro-evo series?

I don't know; I rarely watch PBS. But what's the point here? If they run an astronomy series, must they then run an astrology series too?

[atlaw]

What do you understand to be the evidence for tectonic plate motion?

[Right Wing Professor]

Once the Creater has created something (such as how water interacts with temperature) there is no more need for involvement.

I agree completely.

So He created a set of natural laws that permitted mutation and the survival of the fittest. Having done that, why not let the laws do their thing? Why couldn't an all powerful God use evolution as a tool of His creation?

[jlogajan]

Why couldn't an all powerful God use evolution as a tool of His creation?

Apparently they don't think he is smart enough.

[atlaw]

My point is that you seem to accept the inferences drawn from plate boundries, hot spots, fossil placement, etc. as evidence of plate movement, yet you apparently do not accept any inferences whatsoever from the fossil record, demonstrable speciation, the geologic column, etc. as evidence of evolution. Why is that?

[tortoise]

New DNA information cannot come from mistakes.

Umm... You can't continue to use your apparent definition of "information" and argue with the math/science guys at the same time. There is a very precise mathematical definition of information that is used in science and math (and economics and engineering, etc). For starters, an increase in entropy causes an increase in information content. Anything that increases the entropy of DNA is increasing its information content, and for better or worse (depending on the situation), most things that modify the DNA (viruses, random chemicals, radiation) generally either increase the information content or destroy the DNA. So random natural processes are creating "new DNA information" all the time. In fact there are processes in the cells that have the function of preventing the addition of new DNA information to protect against the fact that it happens frequently.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Special pleading. You did not offer an answer at all. How did something outside the universe come into being?

[atlaw]

Continental drift is well accepted today. It was not in the recent past. Your incredulity that anyone ever questioned the idea is misplaced.

What you describe as irrefutable proof (fault lines, earthquakes, volcanic activity, hot spots, magnetic striping at mid-ocean ridges, etc.) is actually proof of what might be called "micro-movement" (perhaps analogous to "micro-evolution"?). Macro-movement (the drift of entire continents) was not readily accepted as a reasonable inference from such micro-movement. After all, no one has ever actually seen a continent move.

Your willingness to accept without question the inference of macro-movement from the available evidence just seems peculiar to me. One hears all the time that while "micro-evolution" may be true, that is no evidence of "macro-evolution", and that evolution is nothing but sheer spectulation due to the lack of eye-witness evidence. It just seems logical that you would apply this same reasoning to plate tectonics.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Think of a usable swimming pool, without continuous maintenance it would be unusable.

Only to humans. Wrigglers do quite well in non-maintained pools. So do tadpoles. So does algae. Niches weren't created for you; you just found your niche.