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PBS Offers Intelligent Design Documentary
CREATION - Evolution Headlines ^ | 04/28/2003 | Illustra Media/CREATION - Evolution Headlines

Posted on 05/02/2003 10:26:29 AM PDT by Remedy

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To: Axolotl
No magic required...that's the point...

You say no magic is required. Miracles are reqired for evolution, however.

281 posted on 05/03/2003 4:49:23 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
I've never met an evolutionist argument yet that didn't start with the assumption that the basic arguments for it are true and beyond argument.

Worth repeating.

282 posted on 05/03/2003 4:50:28 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dimensio
Evolution has nothing to do with how the first life forms came into being.

And a building has nothing to do with its foundation.

We all know that the attempt to separate abiogenesis from evolution is only for purposes of removing an insurmountable difficulty (a violation of the law of biogenesis) which actually supports special creation.

283 posted on 05/03/2003 4:54:08 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: jlogajan
The religious assualt on an natural explanation for the yet unknown methods of abiogenesis is this: "I can't understand how it could happen, therefore it is impossible."

Actually the evos can't even explain how it happened nor can they provide sufficient evidence. Evidence is so entirely lacking, that sometimes they have to manufacture it.

284 posted on 05/03/2003 4:58:23 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Aric2000
This happens a lot with the pseudo religious mythical believing masses.

Well, Mr. pseudo religious mythical believer, why don't you tell us all about your particular belief in a roll-your-own messiah who will be appearing in the next few years? The charge of hypocrisy seems to be in order.

285 posted on 05/03/2003 5:01:02 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dimensio
fulfill their strawman purpose of it

Strawman #3.

their only interest is in tearing down their own strawman

Strawman #4.

Dimensio, the big problem with the theory of evo is that it is not convincing.
It is not convincing because the evidence does not fit the theory well.
It is not convincing because laws of nature have to be violated.
It is not convincing because its supporters deliberately ignore and suppress evidence.
It is not convincing because supporters cannot defend their own assertions.

Apparrently it is not entirely convincing to PBS either, which, in spite of its overwhelming evolutionary bias, has produced the non-religious program you evos must classify as religious in order to discredit it.

287 posted on 05/03/2003 5:10:12 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: jlogajan
I like to ask them "Who designed the designer?" Suddenly something extraordinarily complex doesn't need to be designed

That question is not a difficult one. So I'll assume you are asking it. Short answer:

If God created time and the universe, He must have existed outside of time and the universe. Although everything in the universe must have a cause/beginning, God is the Causer and Sustainer of the universe and therefore the Uncaused Cause.

288 posted on 05/03/2003 5:18:02 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: PatrickHenry
Darwinism has been tried as an explanation for specieation.
New DNA information cannot come from mistakes. Just as a socialist business cannot survive with continual losses.
New capitalist businesses arise from entrepreneurs.
What brings a whale from a land mammal, or a bird lung from the reptile respiratory system....Mind!
289 posted on 05/03/2003 7:39:07 AM PDT by metacognative
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To: metacognative
Darwinism has been tried as an explanation for specieation. New DNA information cannot come from mistakes. Just as a socialist business cannot survive with continual losses. New capitalist businesses arise from entrepreneurs. What brings a whale from a land mammal, or a bird lung from the reptile respiratory system....Mind!

That says it all!

290 posted on 05/03/2003 7:43:15 AM PDT by stanz
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To: metacognative
New capitalist businesses arise from entrepreneurs.

That's true. The rest of your post is hopeless. Truly hopeless. No way to begin cleaning up such a mess. But have a nice day.

291 posted on 05/03/2003 7:47:35 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: metacognative
New DNA information cannot come from mistakes.

I assume you mean that order cannot arise out of disorder.

Can you explain how a well structured snowflake crystal can arise out of the chaotic randomness of water vapor?

292 posted on 05/03/2003 7:53:39 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: shawne
"Can you explain how a well structured snowflake crystal can arise out of the chaotic randomness of water vapor?"

God is an amazing chemist.

Sweet! God has to intervene in the production of every snowflake. This is the creationist's idea of science. ha ha ha

295 posted on 05/03/2003 9:33:42 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: PatrickHenry
A doctrine that has, many times in the past, led its followers into living a communal life. A doctrine that even today often exhibits hostility to wealth. Can you guess that that doctrine is? Hint -- it's not evolution.

Pick up a Bible and read proverbs. Christianity's only suggestion is to help Widows, Orphans and Invalids, whose dignity will not be tainted by taking an extended hand out.

All other individuals must work or not eat, consider the ant, do not be a drunkard, do not be lazy...

Individual responsibility is clearly the major theme of the Bible, and the founding fathers picked up on that theme. In other words get off the government/church assistance program or face the consequences. A Christian concept institutionalized. Many Catholics like Chris Matthews, the Pope, the Kennedy’s have a "help the poor" attitude, that have transformed the north east into a welfare haven.

Your perception of Christianity has been addled by a liberal segment of the Church. Jesus didn't have a place to lay his head, but His hard working, financially well off friends were able to put him up and feed Him (To whom he brought great wisdom, and healing, of which was clearly exhausting work). It's the pursuit of riches (Greed) that you refer to, not hostility to wealth.

P.S. Individual accountability and a personal relationship with Jesus is also critical to one's extended future (eternity).

296 posted on 05/03/2003 10:02:59 AM PDT by bondserv
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To: Dimensio
Just try to remember that what you imagine -- that is, "make-believe" -- does not necessarily have any bearing on reality whatsoever.

Exactly. That means the the newfound propaganda tool of the evolutionists, computer animation, lends nothing except imagination.

297 posted on 05/03/2003 10:06:41 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dimensio
Once again, even if you utterly disproved evolution, how would this prove the Bible correct?

Let me make it simple, we live in a sustained environment. Think of a usable swimming pool, without continuous maintenance it would be unusable.

Imagine letting your pool go for billions of years. NOT!

298 posted on 05/03/2003 10:22:39 AM PDT by bondserv
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To: Dataman
We all know that the attempt to separate abiogenesis from evolution is only for purposes of removing an insurmountable difficulty (a violation of the law of biogenesis) which actually supports special creation.

No, evolution has nothing to do with abiogenesis because evolution deals with EXISTING life forms. This has been explained so many times and in so many ways that the only reason for you to bring it up is because you are being deliberately dishonest regarding the nature of evolution. Your argument is as stupid as claiming that gravitational theory is weakened because it cannot explain the ultimate origins of matter.
299 posted on 05/03/2003 10:24:31 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Dataman
"mindless silliness attacking a strawman."

Strawman #2.


Attacking the improbability of life forming from non-life oart of evolution is attacking a strawman because evolution has nothing to do with how the first life forms came into existence. Of course, your response to my comments has already proven my point.
300 posted on 05/03/2003 10:26:03 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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