Cross-dressers bill in Calif. called 'intolerant & dangerous' (STOP THE MADNESS!)

BP News ^ | April 29, 2003 | Michael Foust

[hotpotato]

Cross-dressing is a sexual fetish. Mark Leno (state assemblyman (D) San Francisco) was just on Hardball with Mike Barnacle and Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council (why can't they find someone who knows something about this to argue the counterpoint?). Leno's argument was the typical misinformation and downright falsehoods permeating that community. There is NO empirical data that supports transgenderism as a physiologically based condition which one is born with (except in *extremely* rare cases of the intersexed - born with both sex organs or born with damaged XX or XY chromosomes which can be tested for). It is a fetish and NOT a civil rights issue.

To make his point that we need this legislation, Leno argues that it's been on the books in Minnesota for ten years. Minnesota courts awarded a heterosexual crossdresser librarian the right to use female restrooms in his highschool where (since retired) *including* the restrooms for highschool girls. Part of the sexual gratification or titillation of heterosexual crossdressers and transsexuals is to enter traditionally private spaces of females such as public restrooms and gym locker/dressing rooms. There are also heterosexual men whose fetish is to dress as little girls. Their photos can be found on the internet along with sexually descriptive stories about children. I'm not making this up. Search google for "sissy boys girls crossdresser transvestite transgender" This should alarm everyone. This bill does not prevent a heterosexual male expressing his "inner girl-child" at the school where he teaches.

What Leno ignores is that his 70% umemployment figure among the transgendered/transsexual community has much to do with prostitution and drugs, a commonly acknowledge problem in the transgendered community which exists before sex reassignment surgery and is indicative of people who are troubled emotionally and mentally... and NOT a 70% umemployment due to losing a current job.

Another misleading argument is that "women crossdress all the time so why can't a man?" This is completely disingenuous. Women wearing slacks are *not* attempting to pass themselves off as men and certainly are not doing so for sexual gratification.

Folks, this needs to be stopped. It will open a pandora's box of requiring businesses to provide transgenders with separate bathroom facitilites because women will not want heterosexual men in their restrooms. Mark Leno says his legislation doesn't cover that. Of course not! He's going to leave that up to individuals to fight out in the courts. Businesses are being run out of California because of it's hostile environment towards businesses. This is just one more nail in the coffin of California economics.

If an employer wants to hire a trasvestite or transsexual, it should be their right to do so but it is *wrong* to push a sexual deviancy as a civil rights issue. What consenting adults do in their own homes is their business but the public should not be forced to not only accept this behavior in their public life but to also be subjected to state-forced voyeruism especially upon children.

I will look for contact info for Californians to write their state sentator. Gray Davis has yet to make a public stand on this. WE NEED TO LET HIM KNOW THIS IS NOT OK.

[Asclepius]

... What consenting adults do in their own homes is their business ...

So no anti-sodomy laws, right?--you'll join with your homosexual brothers and sisters who want to strike them down etc.?

[hotpotato]

This is what Mark Leno calls a civil right:

men expressing their "inner girl"

[Reaganwuzthebest]

This is what happens when democrats get control of things.

Don't want to sound like a broken record, but it's the number one reason they want illegal aliens pouring into the country, they can't win elections anymore with just Americans, they're loonies and anyone with half a brain knows it.

[reborn22]

The Democrats would support the rights of Arab Muslim illegal immigrant "crossdressers" if they ever got back into power.

[Cap'n Crunch]

ping.

All Hail the New Paganism.

[Yogafist]

This state is going to hell in a hand basket financially and this is what the legislators consider important? My state is an embarrassment.

[TXBlair]

Ughh. Where's the "barf alert"? This bit, however, bears repeating:

"The bill actually claims that what is unnatural is natural," he said. "Traditionally, civil rights are based on immutable characteristics -- things you can't change, like skin color. Now to place obviously changeable things [alongside race] ... makes a mockery of everything that Martin Luther King marched for."

[goldstategop]

What's next - civil rights for pedophiles? They're also a reviled and hated minority in need of compassion and understanding for their lifestyle. After all every one knows they were born that way and to force them to stop being "authentic" is an act of bigotry and discrimination, pure and simple.

[hotpotato]

So no anti-sodomy laws, right?--you'll join with your homosexual brothers and sisters who want to strike them down etc.?

What an idiotic and non-productive response. Or are you uncomfortable with the objective of my post and are attempting to divert the topic from stopping legislation that declares transgenderism a civil rights issue by making ridiculous accusations towards me?

[Asclepius]

< What an idiotic and non-productive response. Or are you uncomfortable with the objective of my post and are attempting to divert the topic from stopping legislation that declares transgenderism a civil rights issue by making ridiculous accusations towards me?

Chill, dude. You're the one wrote that what one does in ones own bedroom is ones own business: hence, by your own reasoning, sodomy laws are unjust. Are you unwilling to take responsibility for your own words? Or were you stone cold drunk when you wrote this so you're not responsible, or what?

[Guillermo]

The same exact wackos who support this type of legislation are the same people who say "we must examine the reasons why the Muslim world hates America".

Of course, they totally and completely miss the irony involved.

[goldstategop]

Hmmm.... can the Democrats support women walking around in burqas? I think they would want to be consistent in the matter of dressing.

[bannie]

I guess women can get rid of their high heels and "cross dress" into greater comfort.

Seriously, it's all pretty perverse!

[Paul Atreides]

What's next - civil rights for pedophiles?

Look for it within a decade. Some "expert" will come out with a study saying that a child becomes sexually aware at four years old, thus making it okay for said child to have sex with some pervert.

[Our man in washington]

Judging from what my female friends tell me about their ex-boyfriends, we'd be wiping out a good part of the male population if we killed everyone with a sexual fetish.

(I'm no voyeur, but some women feel the need to tell all about the man who dumped them. It's a pretty silly thing to do, actually. All it does is make the woman look vindictive.)

[hotpotato]

Sorry, the site is down due to too much traffic already. The photos show men dressed as little girls, some in suggestive poses. If anyone doubts most transsexualism, crossdressing, transgenderism is about sexual fetishism, do the google search I mentioned above - Search google for "sissy boys girls crossdresser transvestite transgender." It's shocking and disturbing but this legislation has gotten this far because most people do not understand what this is about and have not been educated to the facts or have had their introduction to transgenderism via myths and bogus theories promoted on Oprah, Phil Donahue and other talk shows that have not investigated the facts.

[sarasmom]

I am very happy that I never moved to California!
I can freely, privately, practice heterosexual sexual abstinance here in Florida.
No potential employer has ever required that I name my private sexual practices on an application for employment, YET.
If this catches on, must I lie about my private life in order to be considered for a job?
How can I compete under these circumstances for a job?
Who wants to hire a boring non-active heterosexual when they could hire a protected minority?

[goldstategop]

And why can't we normal heterosexual men wear pantyhose and corsets to hide our unflattering waistlines? One would think liberals would be overjoyed by normal men having the same clothing choices as women and the freaks.