Posted on 04/29/2003 12:40:12 PM PDT by browardchad
care to elaborate?
that "if" rests entirely on the purity of the department of justice, since they don't have to tell anyone why you are being held and there is no limit to how long they can hold you.
is there any power you would not be willing to hand to the government?
Care to read post 22?
I heard about that story, though I didn't know the agent in question was an Arab. I'd only heard he was a Muslim. Either way, that joker ought to be drummed out of the Bureau post haste!
-Jay
Not surprisingly, the sketch accompanying the WSJ article shows Hawash as a smiling, All-American guy, with a barely noticeable short beard. No similarity to the current FBI photo.
He's not a H-1B. You are wrong. No brainer.
Next we need to address Maher's anti-American Hogwash.
Actually, Intel secured H1-Bs because there weren't enough U.S. engineers and they had to hire from somewhere. And they pay them the same current going wages that they pay to the rest of us U.S. citizen employees.
Sorry to be so rude and blunt, but HELLO ?? Did you even read the thread to which you are posting???? The FIRST paragraph of this thread is:
PORTLAND — Federal prosecutors on Monday (April 28) charged a former Intel Corp. engineer with allegedly conspiring to aid Al Qaeda and the Taliban, as part of a move to “levy war” against the United States, according to a report in the San Jose Mercury News on Tuesday (April 29).
How about before you are so quick to defend someone, YOU get the full story??
I disagree. Their editors are quite internationalist when it comes to commerce and the reporting reflects their bias.
Uh... sort of left some things out. The guy who sold cell phones and taught phys-ed is Patrice Lumumba Ford; his daddy [Kent Ford] was a Black Panthers member. Patrice Ford didn't start selling phones until AFTER he returned to the US from the group's apparently failed trip to China.
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"Patrice Lumumba Ford is world-traveled, apparantly a graduate of or attended the Johns Hopkins University’s Paul Nitze Center for Advanced Studies (SAIS), he studied in Beijing in the mid-1990s and has attained fluency in Mandarin Chinese. These are no small feats. Reports are that he spent about a year at Johns Hopkins University's prestigious program in China, earned a master's degree in Chinese studies and married a Chinese woman."
..."Lumumba Ford was an intern twice between 1997 and 1999. He had contacts with Vera Katz's office in office in Aug., 2001 that concerned the office so much that they turned this information over to the police. He was also a progeny of Kent Ford, who was a Black Panther in the '60's."
... "Patrice Lumumba Ford also taught physical education at an Islamic school in the Portland suburb of Tigard, operated a private shuttle service and worked to resettle recently arrived Muslim refugees into the Portland community."
"And after being replaced after a two-month trip to China last year, he was selling cell phones and leather wallets from the back of his van. Family members viewed it as a faith-based change. "He converted to a religion that says help the person behind you, and that's what he did," said James Britt II, a Portland businessman who was once married to Ford's mother. "
..."Named after the African (communist) resistance leader and first president of Congo, Patrice Lumumba Ford worked as an international relations intern in 1986 for then-Portland mayor Bud Clark and again in 1998 and 1999 for Portland Mayor Vera Katz, Patrice Lumumba Ford also taught physical education at an Islamic school in the Portland suburb of Tigard, operated a private shuttle service and worked to resettle recently arrived Muslim refugees into the Portland community. His father is Kent Ford, former head of the now defunct Portland chapter of the Black Panthersand now is a weight-training coach at Matt Dishman community Center, part of Portland Parks and Recreation, in Northeast Portland, Oregon. Patrice has a brother named James Britt."
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The "nurse's aide" - actually nurse's aides- are Martinique Lewis and Jeffrey Leon Battle:
(snips) October Martinique Lewis, 25, and Jeffery Leon Battle, 32, get divorced just five months after their September 1999 marriage, but they continued to live together at a southwest Portland apartment complex flanked by two mosques. Lewis' mother, Vivian Lewis, told The Oregonian that the couple worked as nursing assistants at a Portland retirement home. A neighbor of the couple, Matt Hawkey, said he often saw men - sometimes in suits, sometimes in traditional Muslim garb - clustered in the parking lot near their apartment. They talked, listened to music from a car and sometimes shuffled large duffel bags between a Ford Blazer and the apartment, he said.
"Jeffery Leon Battle obtained an administrative discharge from the U.S. Army Reserve in January 2002. An indictment on October 4, 2002 said Battle had enlisted to receive training in U.S. tactics and weapons, which Battle ultimately intended to use against American soldiers.- "U.S. Arrests 6 on Terror Charges," by Ted Bridis, Friday, October 4, 2002 Associated Press*
He was discharged for failing to show up to advanced training.*
Jeffrey Leon Battle obtained an administrative discharge from the US Army reserves in January 2002 while in Bangladesh. Court papers identified the six as Battle, Patrice Lumumba Ford, Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal, Muhammad Ibrahim Bilal, Habis Abdullah al Saoub and October Martinique Lewis, the ex-wife of Battle."
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The bagel-maker was this guy:
(snip) Muhammad Bilal earned $7 an hour working for Sunrise Bagels in Hillsboro at Northwest 185th Street and Cornell Road. "He made sandwiches and worked as cashier," said Steve Kim, Sunrise Bagels owner and manager.
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They forgot this guy- his specialty is beinmg a sponge:
(snip)"Al Saoub was unemployed, living in Portland and had applied for government disability payments based on back problems when federal officials allege he bought a $673 airline ticket to Hong Kong in October 2001 to travel to Afghanistan to join Taliban troops fighting U.S. forces."
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And they didn't mention this guy, who didn't make it to China:
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Ali Khaled Steitiye : Law enforcement officials in Portland, Ore., have charged a Lebanese man who apparently has links to a Middle Eastern terrorist group with felony weapons violations for allegedly lying about his criminal record when he tried to buy an assault rifle this year. Kroeker also said the suspect has told police he received training at Lebanese guerrilla camps, and that at the man's Portland home police found a plaque with the name " Hamas "? the guerrilla group that has been staging suicide bombings in Israel.
Police who arrested Ali Khaled Steitiye, 39, in late October said they found a small cache of weapons, as well as ammunition, fake credit cards, phony citizenship documents and $20,000 during searches of his apartment and vehicle.
Authorities found a plaque with the word " Hamas " and a calendar with Sept. 11 highlighted at the home of a Lebanese man arrested on a weapons charge, police said Tuesday. - Source : Columbia Newsblaster, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/nlp/newsblaster/archive/summaries/85/12_13_01_35.html *
Lebanese citizen and Hamas sympathizer, arrested in Portland October 2001 for having an illegal weapons cache. Steitiye is a Hamas sympathizer who was found to have circled the date Sept. 11 in red on his calendar.well before the others. He was seen by Sheriff's Deputy Mark Mercer in WA shooting at the gravel pit with other members of the Portland Group in September 2001. Upon questioning after his later arrest in portland, OR, he admitted he had trained in Lebanese Hamas camps "in his youth." He has a long criminal record and was caught after being reported by a suspicious Oregon gun dealer.
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He's been held as a "material witness" without being charged with anything for over a month. The feds won't charge him, and won't reveal what evidence they have against him. He's an American citizen. Has been for over 15 years. They arrested him at work, and then busted into his home and terrorized his wife and children JBT-style. And yet, they won't charge him.
His civil rights are being violated, and that's never a good thing. Maybe you could be next for posting here.
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