Protesting ‘Patriots’ - Town Among Several Vowing to Block Patriot Act Enforcement

ABCNEWS ^ | 04-27-03

[RippleFire]

This "little country town" is merely an offshoot of the Chapel Hill wacko crowd. See http://www.ci.carrboro.nc.us/boa/default.htm for their city council resolutions against the Iraq war and for illegal aliens.

[secretagent]

"Under this standard of terrorism," said Kimberly Crenshaw of Columbia University, "the civil rights movement, the freedom riders, the sit-in demonstrations, all of these people could conceivably have been prosecuted as terrorists."

I don't see how.

[LanPB01]

Someone should introduce these people to some basic classes in law or political science. Local police hindering the FBI? Good luck.

[supercat]

Someone should introduce these people to some basic classes in law or political science. Local police hindering the FBI? Good luck.

The FBI exceeds their authority grossly and routinely. If a local government isn't supposed to stand up to them, who is?

[LanPB01]

Standing up to agents that are exceeded their lawful authority is one thing. Standing up to them when they are enforcing a lawfully passed act is another.

[Dan from Michigan]

I have no use for the (un) Patriot Act.

[THUNDER ROAD]

Local police hindering the FBI? Good luck.

Well....who would you suggest to hinder the F.B.I. ?
I mean somebody needs to, from time to time,
or we can All Kiss the Bill of Rights Goodbye !

.....THUNDER......

[LanPB01]

I think the Patriot Act has received a bum rap from sources that really don't know what the act actually says. However, I haven't read all of it, so maybe I'm missing something.

[Dan from Michigan]

I posted a ton of stuff on this when it was released, using the act itself as a source.

Offhand, my biggest problems is the Affirmative Defense provisions on assett forfeitures. That in short means guilty till proven innocent. The other is secret searches(which I have problems with anyway) that can be authorized by ANY judge, not just in the district. That's an easy opening for abuses of power.

Two names offhand. Dan Harmon. Bill Klinton.

[verity]

Somewhere in the background, one can hear the sound of 'dueling banjos.":~)

[inquest]

Quick! Somebody needs to vote some federal subsidies for this town so they can bribe them into complacency like all the other sheeplevilles throughout the country.

[LanPB01]

Well, forfeiture has been a disgrace for years. I don't think anything done by the Patriot Act can compare with some of the rip-offs that have occurred by prosecutors screaming, "Drugs!" Secret searches also already happen on a regular basis. The only thing I see in the Patriot Act is it calls for a lower standard than was normally in place, and even then, it only applies to "agents of a foreign power."

[Brian S]

I'm with you. I'll take my chances with the terrorist first before usurping the guarantees provided by the Constitution.

[Dan from Michigan]

even then, it only applies to "agents of a foreign power."

I don't think that part does.....I can't SWEAR to that though offhand.

[WhiteGuy]

"they're ready for the fight"

Thank God some Americans are.........

[Salgak]

Funny, they said RICO would only be used against racketeers and organized crime. Yet they used it against Pro-life groups.

NEVER give the government the kind of power you don't want to see wielded against you. . .

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I'll take my chances with the terrorist first before usurping the guarantees provided by the Constitution.

So can I assume that you live in a high risk area for terror, perhaps somewhere on Manhattan or in DC? Or are you, like so many big talkers, living in an area where you are highly unlikely to ever suffer from a terrorist act?

What you really mean to say is that you're plenty willing to sacrifice the lives of urban dwellers, air travellers, or Federal employees if somehow your vague and paranoic feelings about mythical government overreaching are assuaged.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

ROFLMAO

Sorry, but them Constimatooshin classes you been takin' down at Denny's ain't 'zackly been right.