Rumfeld's Rejection Of Islamic State Angers Shias

Independent (UK) ^ | 4-26-2003 | Phil Reeves

[Theresa]

"These people aren't even ashamed that THEY didn't have the manhood to fight for their own freedom."

That is so true. These people are pathetic.

[SauronOfMordor]

And if 51% of them agree with that position, isn't that democracy? And what then?

THis is why the US is not a democracy, and hopefully never will be. The US is supposed to be a Constitutional Republic. The difference is that in a Constitutional Republic certain rights are outside the reach of majority vote

[gcruse]

Next thing you know they'll call us the Great Satan and declare jihad.

I'm giving it two years maximum from the fall of Baghdad
until exactly that happens.  If they can get past two years
without religious war or armed revolt, Iraq might work.

[MEG33]

Praying for a better Iraq.God bless our efforts and bring forth good leaders.

[Risa]

>>Sorry to break into your dream<<

Perhaps you are dreaming, I am not.

risa

[Risa]

>>You should walk a mile in their shoes. <<

Would you mind referencing the statement to which you refer so I might make sense of your errant comments. Whose shoes? A rabble-rousing Muslim cleric's shoes? Never!

risa

[Buckeroo]

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"we are not going to work with the Iraqi people to put into place a government which offers thr people: one person, one vote, one time. It will be a representative state in which there are regular transfers of power from one group to another via the ballot box." -- jimkress

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The only transfer of power that exists in Rumsfeld's mind are your tax dollars to pay for all these world wars that Congress refuses to declare. Our nation is not innocent about the excitation of war in the ME... in fact, American government created much of it. Creating a democracy in Iraq is nothing more than making the claim that America will be involved for over 50 years in Iraq as America is involved with over one hundred other countries around the world ... all to the dismay of the American taxpayer.

[Jael]

Isn't this group the minority anyway?

[Dec31,1999]

Perhaps you are dreaming, I am not.

Wouldn't be the first time! Feel free to wake me up! LOL!

Whose shoes?

I was talking about ordinary folks, or innocent people under Islamofascist rule.

[Risa]

>>I was talking about ordinary folks, or innocent people under Islamofascist rule<<

Oh, now I understand. In my comment, I wasn't referring to the Iraqi people. I referred to the Muslim clerics, who would return from exile, prey upon the vulnerable minds of the Iraqi people, stir up trouble for the liberators, and demand the creation of a regime as fascist as Saddam's. I find this behavior appalling and cowardly, too.


regards,
risa

[Semper Paratus]

So What. Anger is the default state for shias'.

[Dec31,1999]

It's a clear danger that Iraq, being a Muslim country, will be ruled by Islamofascists shortly. Iran is sending in people to infiltrate the movement for freedom, and the government of Syria has a vested interest in derailing liberty in that country, as well.

I appreciated Rumsfeld's comment the other day that he wouldn't let the country be ruled by a theocracy, because if we are risking life and limb to liberate a country, why should we turn it back over to Muslim Fascist Fanatics?

Best Regards. -DC3199

[airborne]

"If it is a democracy, why are they allowed to make then rules."
Hey pal, take a look around. Do you see anyone who has done the 'democracy thing' as well as we have? Now sit down, get out your #2 pencil, and take notes. The Constitution of the United States of America will be an excellent reference point with which to build your own democracy.

[Thumper1960]

When will everyone get off the crap-pile and just say the truth: we want to install a republican form of government. Democratically elected, of course.

[cardinal4]

Shias or not, dummies, you lost the war!!

No s*it! To the victor goes the spoils.

[Ima Lurker]

Right on! I'm getting a little tired of the Shias. Maybe they would be happier if we handed them back to Saddam and the boys.