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Shiite leader is ready to work with U.S. (The Iranian-backed one)
Reuters ^ | April 24, 2003

Posted on 04/24/2003 1:10:50 PM PDT by Shermy

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030424/wl_nm/iraq_iran_dc_5 Iran Denies Promoting Shi'ite Role in Iraq

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran rejected U.S. suggestions that Tehran was interfering in Iraq (news - web sites) and said on Thursday it was not seeking to promote the political role of fellow Shi'ite Muslims in its western neighbor.

Washington on Wednesday said Tehran should stay out of Iraqi politics amid concerns that Shi'ite Iran was seeking to encourage the creation of a fellow Islamic republic there.

In a further sign of the U.S. flexing its muscle, U.S. Central Command in Qatar said Marines had this week started patrols on the parts of the border with Iran to "maintain Iraqi territorial integrity."

Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi told a news conference in Tehran: "Naturally the majority of Iraq is Shi'ite but we are not insisting on (the role of the) Shi'ites.

"For us, Shi'ites, Sunnis, Turks and Arabs are the same and everybody should play their role in a democratic Iraq," he said.

Iranian clerical leaders, using their influence among Iraq's Shi'ite community, had encouraged Iraqis "to put aside violence and think about unity and also move toward forming a democratic and free government," Kharrazi said.

"This does not mean interference," said Kharrazi, who added that any interim or permanent Iraqi government should remain under U.N. supervision.

Iran shed no tears over the fall of Saddam, who used chemical weapons against Iranian troops during the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war.

But the Islamic Republic is also an arch-foe of the United States and analysts say Tehran is eager to ensure that a future Iraqi government is at least not hostile to Iran.

Caught seemingly unaware by the political assertiveness of Iraq's Shi'ites, many of whom are friendly to Iran, Washington told Iran to keep out of Iraqi politics.

Central Command in Qatar said the border patrols had started on Monday. "We have a large area to cover," said Major Steve Greco. "We plan to screen the full length of the Wasit Province- Iran border," he said referring to the province around Kut.

It said the Marines would search and interview all people attempting to enter and leave Iraq through Iran.

In a statement Central Command said it was prepared to detain all former officials of Saddam's administration, third-country nationals and insurgents, as well assist Iraqi exiles to return home.

BORDER IS A RED LINE

"This is nothing new. U.S. and British forces have been near our borders since the start of the war in Iraq and our red lines are our borders," said Kharrazi.

U.S. officials on Wednesday said they believed Iranian-trained agents had crossed into southern Iraq since the fall of Saddam and were working to promote Iranian interests in Iraq.

Kharrazi said Washington should spend less time accusing Iraq's neighbors of interfering in the war-torn country and concentrate instead on working with them to rebuild Iraq.

"It is interesting that the United States has occupied Iraq and is now accusing Iraq's neighbors of interfering in Iraq's internal affairs," Kharrazi said.

Washington has also issued stern warnings to Syria in recent weeks, accusing it of offering asylum and assistance to fleeing members of Saddam's government.

"Instead of that (making accusations) they should welcome Iran's positive role as well as that of other countries for reconstructing Iraq," Kharrazi said.

"Instead of accusing they should pay more attention and start cooperating with other countries."

Iran has hosted many Iraqi exiles opposed to Saddam and has close links to the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), one of the main Shi'ite groups vying for a role in the future of Iraq.

In an interview with Reuters on Wednesday SCIRI head Ayatollah Mohammad Baqer al-Hakim, countered suggestions that he was seeking to establish an Iranian-style Islamic republic in Iraq.

"We should not make a copy of the Iranian revolution and establish it in Iraq," he said.

1 posted on 04/24/2003 1:10:50 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
I'd heard that the total of the demonstrators was something lik 2,000 - 3,000. My feeling is that the reason he is so conciliatory is because of this fact.
2 posted on 04/24/2003 1:14:28 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: daviddennis; KeyWest; Dog Gone; Jumper; goodnesswins; GraniteStateConservative; MLedeen; aculeus; ..
Looks like yesterday's stratergery is working. Will the lamestream media cover it???
3 posted on 04/24/2003 1:15:32 PM PDT by Shermy (Full disclosure of Food For Oil books...No Compromise!!!)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
Check out this story from AFP dated yesterday:

Iraq's Karbala pilgrimage fails to ignite mass anti-US demos

The story contains another tidbit:

A spokesman for the Iranian armed opposition People's Mujahedeen guerrillas meanwhile said a ceasefire reached with US forces allowed the Iraq-based group to keep their arms while maintaining their war against the Iranian government.

This group is our leverage, for one, over Iraq. Read in another article this group seized to Iranian Revolutionary Guards (Pasadaran)...in Iraq!

4 posted on 04/24/2003 1:19:27 PM PDT by Shermy (Full disclosure of Food For Oil books...No Compromise!!!)
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To: Shermy
If this guy is seriously trying to be helpful, let's make sure he doesn't get shot, too.
5 posted on 04/24/2003 1:24:01 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Shermy
by hundreds of thousands of pilgrims at the holy shrine of Karbala

All it showed was that they new how to do "the unholy macarena" and that they need to hit themselves in the head a little harder with their swords. Some of them could still walk afterwards.

6 posted on 04/24/2003 1:24:34 PM PDT by techcor (Admin Moderator wannabe)
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Ping.
7 posted on 04/24/2003 1:24:48 PM PDT by Shermy (Full disclosure of Food For Oil books...No Compromise!!!)
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To: techcor
Only about 3,000 did any chanting about the US getting out, even with imploring by the clerics. It was a bust and the clerics know which way the wind is blowing. Lots of backpeddling.
8 posted on 04/24/2003 1:32:20 PM PDT by KeyWest
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To: Shermy
Too late it appears. Aren't they calling for a general strike in Iran to show opposition to the mullahs?

Could it be that the horribly oppressed people of Iran are finally saying ~enough~!
9 posted on 04/24/2003 1:33:51 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Using pretentious arcane words to buttress your argument means you don't have one)
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To: KeyWest
I was just reading that thread. Ha! 3,000. We've got more anti-American protestors in S.F. I seriously doubt this will appear anywhere but Fox. CNN has just been hammering home how everyone hates us.
10 posted on 04/24/2003 1:42:58 PM PDT by techcor (Admin Moderator wannabe)
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To: Shermy
Did we ever find out who was responsible for the murder of Sistani's ally Khoi in Najaf?
11 posted on 04/24/2003 1:48:56 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
I heard there was one million pilgrims and, just as you heard, out of this there was only 2,000 - 3,000 anti-American-ers. Which is an amazing fact. These folks have been portrayed in the media as being staunchly anti-American yet when a million of them have an opportunity to bash us on TV newscasts all over the world . . . only 2,000 of them do. I find that encouraging.
12 posted on 04/24/2003 1:49:42 PM PDT by geedee (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right..)
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To: Question_Assumptions
More likely he's being helpful because he doesn't want to be shot.
13 posted on 04/24/2003 1:59:24 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: dc-zoo
That works, too. :-)
14 posted on 04/24/2003 2:35:15 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: geedee
What is more amazing is that they had been encouraged to protest our being there by the clerics, but did not. There is great hope for Iraq.
15 posted on 04/24/2003 3:19:53 PM PDT by KeyWest
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To: KeyWest
There is great hope for Iraq.

From our prayers to God's ears to fact.

But if one watches the alphabet networks -- ABCCBSNBCCNN -- it's still doom and gloom and a million fundamentalists are protesting. The truth, it appears, will forever be foreign to them.

16 posted on 04/24/2003 3:53:53 PM PDT by geedee (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right..)
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To: geedee
I had not heard this 2000-3000 vs million worshipers story. How reliable is that?

On this guy though; "There is no doubt we are going to cooperate with all sides and forces that have relations with the Iraqi issue," Hakim said in an interview. "Among these sides are America, Britain, the United Nations, the European Union, Arab and Islamic states."

Uh oh. This guy has gotten the Left's Talking Point. He's shrewd and he's playing ball with Europe. He needs to be kepts as far out of this as possible.

17 posted on 04/24/2003 4:06:13 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA ("As long as it takes...No. That's the answer to your question. As long as it takes." GWB)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
I heard it on Fox and Friends this morning. Then I think I read it on another FR thread as well. I'll backtrack over the threads I read today and see if I can find you a link.

On this Hakim fella . . . I liked Rummy's line today when someone asked him something about the kind of government Iraq would end up with. He said something like this . . . "If you're asking me if the government in Iraq is going to be based on fundamentalist Islam . . . That ain't gonna happen." Gotta love Rummy . . . he talks in unambiguous English. So this Hakim critter can play whatever games he wants to . . . he's just setting himself up for a big disappointment -- or worse.

18 posted on 04/24/2003 6:34:44 PM PDT by geedee (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right..)
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To: Shermy
An Iranian-backed Iraqi Shiite leader said he was ready to work with the United States

Someone has had a Come-to-Jesus meeting with him

19 posted on 04/24/2003 6:36:31 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
This isn't the "exact" article I read, but it'll give you a feel for the 3000 protesters. Here's a snippet of the article. By the way, I found it interesting that this article comes from Islam-online.net.

The demonstration was no larger than a similar protest Tuesday, April 23, that drew 3,000 people, despite appeals by megaphone for pilgrims to turn up to vent opposition to a U.S.-imposed government following Saddam Hussein's ouster, Agence France-Presse (AFP) reported.

And further in the article, Islam-online says there was TWO million folks in Karbala! But we'll never hear all this in the mainstream press . . . there's a conservative in power.

20 posted on 04/24/2003 6:52:07 PM PDT by geedee (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right..)
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