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Who Was William Jefferson Clinton?
Toogood Reports ^ | April 21, 2003 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 04/21/2003 8:15:56 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

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To: Stand Watch Listen
"Clinton´s understanding of America´s place in the world was and is perverse"

Best defined sentence in the whole article. With few words, the explanation is quite apparent.
41 posted on 04/21/2003 10:05:28 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Stand Watch Listen
As he was organizing the notes in one of Clinton´s Presidential Daily Briefs, he found reference to an “Operation Bojinka” which was Osama Bin Laden´s plan for using airplanes as flying bombs and kamikaze instruments.

That means CLINTON KNEW.

Oh, Hillary? Where are you? Your silence is deafening. Hillary? I can't hear you!

42 posted on 04/21/2003 10:16:16 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: w_over_w; Stand Watch Listen; oldglory
"The fact that this conartist has no connect to the reality of his criminal behavior makes me wonder if pathology is involved."

And what's worse, he is only a "symptom" of the real problem.

Two-bit jackasses like him and his low-life wife are a dime a dozen --- but in order to ascend to high office they must obtain the votes of vacuous useful idiots and criminals just like themselves.

The underlying *problem* is the people who voted for him not just once, but twice --- and would vote for him again if they had the opportunity.

His legacy is their legacy. DemocRAT policies weakened America and therefore invited every attack that has been made against us at home and abroad.

They can run, but they can't hide. Their legacy is epitomized by, and culminated in 9-11, and they know it.

The DemocRAT ex-mayor of NYC, Ed Koch recently stated, "It is not safe to vote DemocRAT yet". Indeed -- on 9-11 he flat-out said how grateful he was that Gore wasn't president at this time.

He knows what DemocRATS are made of, and what they stand for. He ought to, he's one of them and inexplicably continues to choose to be one of them.

It is NEVER safe to vote DemocRAT. We cannot allow them to ever get ahold of the country again.

43 posted on 04/21/2003 10:22:39 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Marxist DemocRATS, Nader-Greens, and Militant Islam are a clear and present danger to our Freedoms.)
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To: Paulus Invictus
Surely you missed some! I would add coercion and intimidation of the media.

Coercion is near the top of the list. I'm only adding offenses that would stand in a court of law, uh, that is it dealt with a regular person and not Bill Clinton - master manipulator and hugely successful white collar criminal.

44 posted on 04/21/2003 10:29:09 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: All
More interesting parts in the book:

1. What caused Slick to fall late at night when he and golfing partner Greg Norman (?) were up so late in Florida;

2. What Colonel Patterson really thinks about Hillary and how SHE would run the country if given the chance.

Good book; read it if you get the opportunity.
45 posted on 04/21/2003 10:31:48 AM PDT by Maria S
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To: altura
George Will, a gentleman, scholar, and a very fine writer, had this to say about Bill Clinton:

"Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person ever to be president."
46 posted on 04/21/2003 10:35:58 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Matchett-PI
--- but in order to ascend to high office they must obtain the votes of vacuous useful idiots and criminals just like themselves.

Idiots whose minds are bombarded by the leftest/bias reporting of the news media. It's interesting how rapidly their infestation is getting exposed on the internet and by emerging organizations like FOX.

No, many Democrats' problem, which threatens to disqualify their party from presidential responsibilities for a generation, is their incontinent love of snobbery and nostalgia -- condescension toward a president they consider ignorant, and a longing for the fun of antiwar days of yore.

~George Will

47 posted on 04/21/2003 10:42:34 AM PDT by w_over_w (Never bring a box cutter to a Jihad)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Who Was William Jefferson Clinton?

It is surely correct that Clinton's character flaws, including his penchant for chasing interns and his inability to accept responsibility for anything, harmed our country a great deal. Attributing the damage we are now realizing exclusively to his character flaws, however, will prove to be extremely costly as we move forward. I am Bill Clinton's age, and I too was a campus lefty in the early seventies. I used to sit around with my similarly patriotism-impaired comrades and plan for the overthrow of the "military industrial complex". We dreamed of the day when we could somehow get "one of us" in the White House, and we knew that we could definitely change the course of history, should that occur.

We realized that this person would have to be special. This person would have to be the ultimate con-man, the quintessential chameleon, first in order to get elected, but then to pull off implementing our leftist agenda, which included crippling capitalism and neutering the military.

What Bill Clinton did to this country was not as much the result of character flaws as it was the product of a deliberate, life-long plan to maneuver and manipulate his way to the top, and then proceed to do everything in his considerable power to weaken this country from within.

The fact that it is finally being recognized by some in the media that Clinton's character did our country harm is a good thing, but falls way short of what is needed to explain the phenomenon that was Bill Clinton, and what we have yet to face in the spectre of his plan to return to power through Hillary's election to the office of the Presidency.

Unlike Bill Clinton, I left college and got a job in the private sector. I changed. He never worked a real job, and he never changed.

48 posted on 04/21/2003 10:48:14 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Kenny Bunk
There was a story going around after the 2000 election that the Bush admin had paid Pat Buchanan to take over the Perot party machine. The object was to destroy it prior to the election, in order to avoid another debacle with the Perot bunch.

I always thought Pat would never have taken on such a project.
49 posted on 04/21/2003 11:43:44 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
You've been busy, great post :)
50 posted on 04/21/2003 11:46:52 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Howlin; Slyfox
When you see it laid out like that, then remember that he's never spent a night behind bars, you gotta wonder how he gets away with it.

Unless I missed it, and I went over the list again, is Clinton's military AWOL. He was classified as 1-A, but never showed up; he hornswaggled the National Guard officer also. You folks know what I'm talking about, I just can't remember exactly how that went. He got away with that one also...
51 posted on 04/21/2003 11:59:09 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: Howlin
Is that all? >: )
52 posted on 04/21/2003 12:14:41 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: altura
I am sorry, I have to disagree.

He destroyed the Black family unit with his great society and we are still in the aftermath of that destruction which has never been effectively repaired.

One man destroyed the black family unit? Who are you kidding? Yourself?

You mean the mothers of black families just gave up because LBJ 'founded' the great society? That black men decided to get black women pregnant, then ditch them, because LBJ was President?

He horribly botched Vietnam.

Are you aware of the state of the world when LBJ had the office of President dropped in his lap? That he and his wife were afflicted with mental depression over becoming President through Kennedy's death? That Lady Bird and Lyndon were horribly upset over the deaths of American soldiers in Vietnam? That it was the infighting between Republicans and Democrats, CIA and Army Intel,the Media and the public that led to the indecisiveness over Vietnam. That LBJ was being torn this way and that, while wanting to do the right thing, and being told he couldn't? That he didn't run for re-election because of the strain the Presidency caused on his body and soul? That he died in pain shouldering responsibility for the wrongs of Vietnam and the unneeded deaths of our soldiers?

LBJ was President during he Vietnam conflict, and took the responsibility for the botched job, but was he the sole reason for it's failure ?

SIDE QUESTION: How many POSTERS on FR know why we can drive on AMERICA's FREEWAYS and HIGHWAYS and get unobstructed, uncluttered views of the surrounding countryside??????????????????????????????????????

53 posted on 04/21/2003 12:21:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (A)
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To: Stand Watch Listen
How did this woman end up looking so much like Hitler?

The nose, chin, lips, cheekbones, forehead, eyebrows, soul.


54 posted on 04/21/2003 1:58:07 PM PDT by reformjoy
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To: Stand Watch Listen
bttt
55 posted on 04/21/2003 2:57:47 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug , Holier-Than-Thou Socialist)
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To: UCANSEE2
"SIDE QUESTION: How many POSTERS on FR know why we can drive on AMERICA's FREEWAYS and
HIGHWAYS and get unobstructed, uncluttered views of the surrounding
countryside??????????????????????????????????????"

Lady Bird Johnson I beleive.

56 posted on 04/21/2003 3:21:32 PM PDT by dozer7
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To: Stand Watch Listen
I wrote this out of sheer frustration and disbelief in mid-1998:

"I have coined a new term. The term is mine and no one else’s. If and when it gets used later, I’ll know I created it. The word is a descriptor for the lies that are full and complete lies (as opposed to little white lies) but can be parsed upon scrutiny so as to become legally in-actionable.

The word is “Clingo”--short for Clinton Lingo.

Clinton lies are the defining lies of the genre. If there ever is a dispute whether a lie fits into a “lie” category or the “Clingo” category, one must look to the source, Bill Clinton, and his legally accurate yet indisputable lies.

If it strikes at the heart of the matter, and the result of an answer to a question would be entirely different but for the lie, but can still be spun beyond recognition, than it is a Clingo. See also “Clintalk”.

A perfect Clingo example is the Clingo Bill told us in ’92 to get the nomination. He knew he had to lie. And he told us a whopping Clingo which allowed him to pass go and collect the $200.

Was it about some terrible thing? No, it was just a sex thing about Gennifer Flowers. It was the first Clingo we were treated to--one of thousands to follow, we now know. The draft dodge, the no-inhalation, the no anti-American Rhodes protest, the campaign cover-ups, the various “gates”, all the rest of the women (probably at least four score and seven, and that’s just in the Lincoln bedroom), and of course Monica.

But we as a country aren’t concerned! These were all Clingos, they effected the outcome of many crucial tests, and though they were just "little" lies, they were absolutely required in order for him to survive. They were Clingos.

Without the Clingo, he’s not our president! Any one of them. Some white lies, huh? But I’ll bet every Clingo can and will stand up in a court of law. Doesn’t matter. None of them stand up in the court of public opinion. Not even with those #ss-suckers who are forced by their choice to defend the slimy eel.

Nearly anything that has escaped the lips of the (former) president is a potential Clingo. Anything he said can and will be spun against us in a court of law or the senate. He will wait until all the facts of whatever investigation happens to be coming out, then he and his bootlickers will spin those facts beyond recognition. That is what Clintonites do..."

57 posted on 04/21/2003 3:31:44 PM PDT by Husker8877
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To: UCANSEE2
Wow!

You are the first person I have encountered in a long time to defend LBJ.

Even my yellow dog demo friend hated him and was furious that he was selected for the VP.

I admire your passion for the man, but I still think his Great Society was responsible for much of the ills of the Black population. Not that they aren't culpable also but ....
58 posted on 04/21/2003 4:11:30 PM PDT by altura (I am so sick of these whiney liberals. Shut up!!!)
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To: dozer7
Very good.

How many remember good past acts? It is always easier to remember bad things, or complain about them. This act is one of the most visual to the entire country, and I think a very important one, and yet anyone under 40 probably wouldn't have a clue.

59 posted on 04/21/2003 5:05:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (A)
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To: altura
Well, Thank You. I defend the accomplishments, the heartaches, the frustration that LBJ incurred.

Imagine being President and having the Vietnam situation and Presidency dumped in your lap, while facing a public that had their nose jammed up Jane Fonda's arse.

I defend LBJ because I have taken the time to learn the truth, rather than have knee-jerk reactions supplied to me by the media.

So many believe that LBJ had Kennedy assasinated so he could be President. There is nothing further from the truth.

The ones that want the public to buy that are the ones that control many politicians and the media. It boils down to one person, actually. A person that may have had a President killed because the President was involved in the death of a major source of income for this person and his business. That person is still in control of the business, and maybe after he dies, the truth will come out. Maybe not.

60 posted on 04/21/2003 5:11:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (A)
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