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SARS infects 'protected' medical staff Gloves, gowns, masks didn't stop outbreak at Sunnybrook
CanWest News Service - The Ottawa Citizen - canada.com ^ | April 20, 2003 | David Rider

Posted on 04/20/2003 6:43:29 AM PDT by CathyRyan

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To: CathyRyan
The Andromeda Strain.
21 posted on 04/20/2003 8:11:05 AM PDT by wcbtinman (Metus improbos compescit, non clementia. (Fear, not kindness, restrains the wicked.))
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To: CathyRyan
"What the CDC mentioned to us last night was that, in their studies, they found that you could still culture viable virus from surfaces after as much as 24 hours, which is longer than we normally expect viruses to be able to survive in the environment," he said.

Great.

22 posted on 04/20/2003 8:11:12 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: snopercod
Officials said USAMRIID scientists are testing about 2,000 drugs on the coronavirus that causes the flu-like respiratory disease. The virus is new to science with no known cure or vaccine

"We've got tons of drugs under test," said Dr. Peter B. Jahrling, senior research scientist with USAMRIID, adding that it is "too soon for results."

Jahrling said his organization received the virus from the CDC during the last week of March and that it "took a while to get the virus up and replicating."

Scientists first tested Ribaviron, a leading antiviral drug, on the virus, but quickly determined that it did not work.

Researchers at Detrick are testing about 150 to 200 drugs per week on the virus that causes SARS,………….

A USAMRIID press release said the organization will be "freely shared with CDC and other government agencies."

But for now, progress is slow.

"We don't have any hints yet," Jahrling said.

http://www.gazette.net/200316/frederick/news/154297-1.html

23 posted on 04/20/2003 8:11:54 AM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: CathyRyan
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24 posted on 04/20/2003 8:13:07 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: CathyRyan
There has been an obvious ChiCom cover-up.

With a death rate of 5% or higher, SARS is "The Stand Lite" and has the serious potential to ravage the world economy. For example, 80% (!) of the world's microwave ovens are made in the SARS ground zero region near Hong Kong.

25 posted on 04/20/2003 8:16:27 AM PDT by friendly
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To: MichaelDammit
You're right. Though maybe there is some good news in that the graphs (while linear and upward)are at least not showing logarithmic increases.

I'm not sure what means, whether it's something about it's infecitiousness, or something about precautions are working at least somewhat. I'd be interested to know what epidemiologists have to say.

26 posted on 04/20/2003 8:16:28 AM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: CathyRyan
And lets not forget the critical contribution to the SARS epidemic from the magnificent US lawyer industry:

The new bioterrorists

Robert Goldberg

Here's a story ripped from today's headlines. A mysterious flu-like disease with no known cure which originated in southern China in November hits Hong Kong in March. It kills dozens, and sickens and infects thousands there. It spreads, leaving that health-care system on the brink of collapse, and moves like wildfire throughout the world and to America thanks to travelers.

While doctors in China recommend an ancient brew of dead silkworms and cicada-skin, American doctors and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention go through thousands of existing drugs in a fruitless search for a treatment or a cure. Then, when all hope is lost, one biotech company, AVI BioPharma, says it should be able to develop a drug that would attack the SARS virus within a week of receiving its genetic code, which researchers in Canada just discovered this weekend. The company uses a technique that disables viral genes and has already made experimental drugs for coronaviruses similar to the SARS virus that causes illnesses in cats and lab mice.

But then, the drug doesn't get made. A group of individuals dedicated to weakening the ability of private companies to produce bioterror countermeasures and other products essential to public health make it virtually impossible for the company to invest in and develop the drug. They threaten to challenge the price and patent of the drug. And they block any effort to protect the company from any lawsuits that arise from the product's testing or use. These groups fancy themselves as opponents of high drug prices. But, what they are in practice are the new bioterrorists — organizations that through persistent tactics and organized resistance weaken our ability as a nation to respond to weapons of mass destruction and other public-health threats.

Sounds like fiction? First, meet the Prescription Access Litigation Project (PAL), which is suing to shorten the patent life of Cipro — the leading brand drug used to treat anthrax — earlier than its legal term to allow generic versions on the market. Decrying the inadequacy of the arrangement that the federal government just negotiated with Bayer, the project has organized consumer groups in eleven states — representing over a million consumers — to sign on to the litigation.

What PAL is really doing is fronting for trial attorneys awash in tobacco cash, and who are now seeking to bankrupt biotech and drug companies by suing for early termination of valid patents on a retainer basis. It acts as a holding company for plaintiffs' lawyers who have banded together and created war chests to help fund what they think will be very expensive litigation.

The law firms handling PAL's patent-killing lawsuits include those that have made millions suing tobacco firms. These firms and other companies work from a playbook that challenges the validity of every new patent, seeking to end its legal life as early as possible. Again, this has nothing to do with unlawful behavior. It is simply a matter of a law firm's trying to get state courts to rule that the patents are invalid and then get a percentage of the monopoly profit that the generic firms will get during the 180 days they will be able to sell their drug without any competition after the court ruling.

Trial attorneys have made it nearly impossible to introduce innovative drugs and vaccines to defend the homeland. Indeed, the threat of a class-action lawsuit is more certain than that of a bioterrorist attack, which is why no biotech or pharmaceutical company in its right mind will invest in countermeasures or small-market drugs without liability protection.

Consider what Scott Gottlieb of the FDA science adviser's office has to say about the growing risks of litigation, even as new drugs have become safer than everyday aspirin: "The bowel drug Lotronex caused fewer than fifty serious events in 300,000 prescriptions before it was withdrawn, and became the subject of costly litigation. Even drugs like aspirin, which cause hundreds of deaths each year, could not meet the safety standards patients expect today. All this has become a bonanza for lawyers, however, as our society gets more accustomed to taking medications for a wider range of problems. Bayer is facing more than 8,000 lawsuits after Bayer's widely used cholesterol-lowering drug Baycol was withdrawn from the market after being linked to about 100 deaths."

People who did not suffer any side-effects at all, however, are filing at least 6,000 of those lawsuits. How much will these lawsuits eventually cost? Bayer has reportedly paid about $125 million to settle the first 500 cases. As with tobacco litigation, a large slice of those payments goes to plaintiff attorneys. Which explains why they are also fighting so hard to block any effort to include any liability protection for companies like AVI Biopharma. The drugs and vaccines they produce are more indispensable and safe then ever. They are also fatter targets, too. So, it is no surprise that the haters of capitalism and the bottom-feeders of the parasite economy have found common cause in bankrupting private-sector companies in pursuit of medical progress.

(Robert Goldberg is director of the Manhattan Institute's Center for Medical Progress.)

27 posted on 04/20/2003 8:21:48 AM PDT by friendly
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To: friendly
Yikes! I know a lady that will not buy any packaged food or cooked food that can not be microwaved. She stores dishes in her oven and uses her range top as counter space.
28 posted on 04/20/2003 8:23:59 AM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: CathyRyan
Nah, just sterilize your new ChiCom microwave in the microwave!
29 posted on 04/20/2003 8:38:03 AM PDT by friendly
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To: Prince Charles
That caught me attention too. First I heard that it could remain viable on surfaces for 4-5 hours. That was bad enough.

Even though I don't think this is bioterrorism, all the pieces are there to make it one. Seems as though it would be very easy at this point to send in a couple sleepers to become infected, then work to spread the contagion before becoming to ill to "work".

30 posted on 04/20/2003 8:41:56 AM PDT by Brian S (YOU'RE IT!)
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To: CathyRyan; All
Wielding a Big Stick, Carefully, Against SARS:

At one time, New York Harbor even had three quarantine islands: Ellis Island for the federal government, Hoffman for the state and North Brother for the city.

31 posted on 04/20/2003 8:43:59 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: CathyRyan
And now an article that says there may not be super spreaders.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/04/20/health.superspreaders.reut/
32 posted on 04/20/2003 8:46:16 AM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: aristeides
Thank you for all the hard work you have put in on sars. You are a jewel. :)
33 posted on 04/20/2003 8:49:01 AM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: mewzilla
"You don't suppose they could have come in contact with the virus when they were removing their protective gear?"

That was my first thought.

But even so, that's an extremely contagious virus...


34 posted on 04/20/2003 8:50:30 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: CathyRyan
Argh...

I think there are many factors to consider. Some may truly be more contagious than others. Some may have a higher threshold or tolerance for illness or discomfort and can go about their business longer. Some people, simply, can come into contact with dozens of people a day while others do not.

35 posted on 04/20/2003 8:50:59 AM PDT by riri
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To: DB
They know, though, how big corona viruses are. If this mask won't filter out something that size, why were they using it?
36 posted on 04/20/2003 8:51:51 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: CathyRyan; aristeides
"To: aristeides

Thank you for all the hard work you have put in on sars. You are a jewel. :)"

Yes. Aristeides has posted some VERY interesting articles...I really like the links...


37 posted on 04/20/2003 8:52:11 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: CathyRyan; Domestic Church
From your link: It turns out the 26-year-old Hong Kong superspreader was given drugs using a jet nebulizer, which pumps a fog of drugs into a patient's airways and may have created a mist of infected droplets in the air around him. So, maybe a nebulizer, rather than Domestic Church's theory of aspirin.
38 posted on 04/20/2003 8:52:13 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: mewzilla
If this mask won't filter out something that size, why were they using it?

It will still filter out things like sputum and droplets of saliva. It's not established yet that SARS has airborne transmission, in the strict sense.

39 posted on 04/20/2003 8:53:37 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Don't they have these folks in negative pressure rooms? If so, would a nebulizer still be a problem?
40 posted on 04/20/2003 8:54:35 AM PDT by mewzilla
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