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Will George W Bush really suffer his father's fate?
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | April 20, 2003 | Julian Coman

Posted on 04/19/2003 4:20:39 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: libbylu
not only that, but the presstitues sandbagged the country with Xlintoon

Bush II learned a lot from watching his fathers' mistakes.
121 posted on 04/19/2003 8:15:33 PM PDT by Mr. K (I'm formidable with that)
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To: Happygal
And WHAT makes you think he (Bush) will (sign the AWB)?

Because he said he would.

122 posted on 04/19/2003 8:17:41 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: sd-joe
The GOP has a bad habit of not knowing how or when to play hardball. I, while liking the man, am not particularily in awe of GW when it comes to domestic politics. I understand his narrow margin of victory, but playing to the left and center could cause him losses in the GOP's once conservative base. But in the end a majority of the base will stay home and vote for him, as "he isn't a DemocRAT, afterall!"

He, Karl Rove, and Rasicott (sp) have made some really bone headed moves, and seem to continue to do so with Education, CFR, the assualt weapons ban, and now the RNC courting gays. Each item while triggers for the single issue folks who are luckily in a small minority, aren't sufficient to keep the base at home. But the compilation of all, especially if added to from now until the election could cause enough harm for enough of the base to sit one out and by default throw the election to the DemocRATs.

I hope not, but someone in the planning rooms better start paying attention. The right is not nearly as forgiving or as forgetful as the left.

123 posted on 04/19/2003 8:18:35 PM PDT by ImpBill ("You are either with US or against US!")
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To: Skooz
Well, this conservative purist is going to bed. I don't post much on Free Republic anymore, because no one really wants to debate...you're all so delighted to have gotten rid of Clinton you don't understand that you're still the frog in the pot -- the heat has just been turned down from high to medium.
124 posted on 04/19/2003 8:21:51 PM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: Skooz
Ha!
I came back to check this thread to see what was happening and, lo and behold!, the scumbag malcontents are feasting away! "Bush betrayed us!" "Bush is no conservative!" "Bush wants to ban guns!" "Not a dime's worth of difference!" "Blah blah blah!"

They get tired of playing with themselves over at Scumbag Underground and Puberty Forum so they stop by here to stir up mischief.

My advice, Skooz, is to not engage these mice in any discourse at all. It just plays into their hands, IMO. I think it would be best to ignore them until they end up back in their own little circle jerk.

Regards,
LH

125 posted on 04/19/2003 8:24:07 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: MadIvan
From Rush himself.

There Will Be No 1992 Redux

April 17, 2003

The Democrats, ladies and gentlemen, plan to attack President Bush on the economy in the coming months, in the hope that his postwar surge in the polls will plummet when voters refocus on job losses and weaker business activity, according to Donald Lambro in the Washington Times. This is a continued takeoff on the whole notion that the Democrats are hoping and praying for a rerun of 1992. All they have is a hope that history repeats itself.

"Bush's irresponsible tax plan, continued job losses, rising costs, and diminishing hopes for a quick economic recovery have had a disastrous effect on our nation," said the DNC chairman, Terry McAuliffe. "We have nine experienced presidential candidates blanketing the issues, and the economy is going to be at the forefront of these issues."

Now to counter this, Terry Jeffrey has a piece, entitled, "Is Bush Unbeatable?" He compares the circumstances in 1992 to the circumstances of today and what he finds is really devastating for the Democrats. If they're hoping for a replay of 1992, they are not going to get it. You can hear me read this to you in the audio link below, as Jeffrey catalogues differences. But then he gets to a very interesting paragraph:

"Third, Clinton blamed Bush I for a bad economy. Even though the economy grew throughout 1992 and was growing at a 5.4% pace on Election Day, Democrats then had virtually the entire national broadcast media except Rush Limbaugh backing up their economic mythology. Now, Limbaugh is flanked by conservative voices all over national radio and TV."

This is the root of my optimism, my friends. People always say, "Rush, why are you so optimistic? The Democrats are making hay. Look at the media. The media takes everything the Democrats say and reports it as true." The fact is that back in 1992, this program was it, in terms of national conservative media.

Now look at what's out there. All of talk radio is conservative. We have the Fox News Channel, and there are conservative magazines and websites that didn't exist then. It's gotten so bad that the Democrats think they've lost control of the media. Things are not as they were in 1992, folks. Yet the Democrats are praying for a rerun that cannot happen.

126 posted on 04/19/2003 8:25:26 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So ( Something witty, etc, etc....)
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To: MadIvan
Another thing this doesn't mention is that the Democrats have an extraordinarily "weak bench".

It's more than a weak bench. It's a rotting bench.

127 posted on 04/19/2003 8:25:33 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: Trace21230
Now I'll agree that he's not Pat Buchanan or Harry Browne, but that works in his favor as well.

Amen!

And today was a good day...

128 posted on 04/19/2003 8:35:49 PM PDT by rdb3 (It ain't nuthin' to a ballah, baby...)
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To: Godebert
Because he said he would.

Can you give me the exact instance of this. At least the speech saying so? Please? Otherwise you sound like my Godchild...'I want it now!!! Because my daddy said so!!. That little three year old got her arse reddend from me. So You prepared to elaborate?

129 posted on 04/19/2003 8:44:35 PM PDT by Happygal
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To: Lancey Howard
Agreed. No one can pass their purity tests. No one is that pure and holy, so they will just stay home and refuse to vote for anyone. Pathetic.
130 posted on 04/19/2003 8:47:50 PM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: ModernDayCato
...you're all so delighted to have gotten rid of Clinton you don't understand that you're still the frog in the pot ...

Let's say I agree with your premise. How does the election of Hillary/Gephardt/Daschle/The Little Weasle from Carolina to the Presidency further your conservative goals?

"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it.”Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.

"I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

~~ Ronald Reagan, in his autobiography, An American Life.


131 posted on 04/19/2003 8:53:28 PM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: ilgipper
"Must be repeated again....I don't like this crap I am seeing on this thread. Bush has accomplished an unbelieveable amount in the past two years, especially when you consider the close margins in the house and senate. If this is the attitude of the base, I guess we deserve another Clinton."

I suspect that half of this single-issue whackjobs are plants from that *other* website. . .

sinister music

Trace
132 posted on 04/19/2003 8:54:04 PM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: Trace21230
I suspect that half of this single-issue whackjobs are plants from that *other* website. . .

Yeah, that's it, we are all communist plants, and socialist screw worms from that other site, (actually I have never been on that site, whatever the hell it is, and have never brought it up, never). But our agents are everywhere........

:O

133 posted on 04/19/2003 8:59:37 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: ModernDayCato
McCain-Feingold have brought the Dems to their collective knees. They didn't know what was in the Bill and thought that they didn't have to read it. Opperating on the assumption : " IF IT SOUNDS GOOD, PASS IT ", they managed to hurt themselves a very great deal. If you think that taking away " soft money ", which wastheir life's blood, isn't a biggie, then think again ! You have NO idea what any Conservative politician would and would NOT do. You wouldn't have signed it and that's because YOU are a poltical naif.

The economy is better than it was in '92; it was better in '92, than the conglomerate of CBSNBCABCCNN and the N.Y. Slimes,L.A.Grimes,and the Washington comPost let on. Those days are over; happily.

Yeah, big boy...you show 'em; stay home on election day. That'll REALLY prove something; just what exactly , is patently obvious...YOU'RE STUPID !

One issue voters, those who claim to be " MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN THOU ", throw out " neo-con " as an impugnation, and can't see the forest for the trees, should NEVER vote anyway. WHY ? Becuase you've less political understang than the cretins on DU; that's why. And, you aren't Conservatives at all; just a pack of whiney children, who only imagine that they know what they're talking about, when it comes to politics and who didn't think that Reagan was a Conservative either, until after he left office.

134 posted on 04/19/2003 9:08:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ImpBill
The GOP has a bad habit of not knowing how or when to play hardball.

This is certainly true, although I believe that Bush and Rove are doing a better job than most other recent GOP administrations and campaigns.

One of the earlier posts in this thread gave the quote from Reagan about the need to compromise in politics in this country, as by design, no group has complete power. It is better to win and get 70-80 percent and move on, than to lose it all.

I also think it is easy to forget how difficult circumstances have been in this administration. From the outright unethical and continuous attacks of the Democrats, to the fact that the country really was fairly evenly split at the start of this administration, to the incredible economic hits caused by the attacks of 911, to the bad economic scene left over from the Clinton administration, to the need to fight two wars in just a couple of years, to the very real threat of unleashed WMD, what has actually been accomplished is unbelievably amazing.

If someone had said at the end of the Clinton administration, that in just a little over two years the GOP administration would accomplish what actually has been accomplished, no one would have dared to believe it.

So I am hopefull for the future, but realise the many pitfalls that are there.

135 posted on 04/19/2003 9:11:50 PM PDT by sd-joe
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To: Trace21230
Nope, they're just CINOs, political naifs, and have NEVER much liked President Bush the younger.
136 posted on 04/19/2003 9:13:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Skooz
so they will just stay home and refuse to vote for anyone. Pathetic.

I believe that most (if not all) of these "I'll-never-vote-for-Bush-again" posters did not vote for George W. Bush the first time. Mostly, these people are disenfranchised Democrats who now call themselves "libertarians" because they don't have the guts to completely disavow their past and vote for the only viable alternative, the Republican Party. They were born and raised in Democrat families and, though they are disgsuted and repulsed at being affiliated with the party of taxes, abortion, welfare, handgun banning, race quotas, the feminization of the miltary, and elementary school "fisting" classes, they are too weak to make the full transition. And it is these people who are most easily provoked by the true scumbag infiltrators who show up here by design for the purpose of stirring up animosity toward Bush.

See, FreeRepublic.com is the single most powerful political forum on the internet, and the scumbag Democrats most definitely have operatives posting here for the sole purpose of disruption and mischief-making. And naturally there's always the rogue scumbags who pop over from Scumbag Underground just to freelance. I've been around here a long time and this is nothing new. Fortunately, these mice really do end up talking to, and convincing, each other!

Like I said, they end up right back in their own little circle jerk.

Regards,
LH

137 posted on 04/19/2003 9:16:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: nopardons
To: ModernDayCato

You have NO idea what any Conservative politician would and would NOT do. You wouldn't have signed it and that's because YOU are a poltical naif.

YOU'RE STUPID !

Becuase you've less political understang than the cretins on DU; that's why. And, you aren't Conservatives at all; just a pack of whiney children, who only imagine that they know what they're talking about, when it comes to politics and who didn't think that Reagan was a Conservative either, until after he left office.
134 posted on 04/19/2003 9:08 PM PDT by nopardons


#178

Keep going, I like watching fools like you. Thanks.

138 posted on 04/19/2003 9:20:53 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Bill, you need to get a dictionary and a mirror, since your understanding of the word " fool " , appears to be negligable at best. ; ^ )
139 posted on 04/19/2003 9:25:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: gcruse
"You'd deny Bush your vote because you can't get a machine gun to kill deer and call it sport? Mercy."

Are you an idiot?

140 posted on 04/19/2003 9:44:22 PM PDT by alphadog (die commie scum)
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