Posted on 04/19/2003 7:02:08 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
Depends on what kind of motors they have. The BATFE has been running about declaring certain model rocket motors as "destructive devices" or somesuch twaddle. As I understand it, they are down to some pretty small motors.
No, but that was because he/they were isolated, all concentrated in one spot, surrounded, and got no outside help. Those conditions might not always apply.
try 800,000 to 1 million.
Actually bans sale of newly manufactured machine guns to other than govermental entities. Also: allows sales by hobbyists and others not engaged in the buiseness without having to get a federal firearms license. That did however create the "Gun show loophole", such as it is, because these non-dealers can sell at gun shows, or anywhere else, without going through the Brady check and registration system. I've got a... well never mind, that I got that way at a gun show, but that was before the AW ban as well and before the Brady check began applying to long guns.
If we do that, and it all goes to snot, it will be kind of late to be worrying about our knickers, now won't it?
If that was his intent, it could have been better achieved by telling his Deputy Press secretary to keep his yap shut on the issue, one way or another, along with the rest of his team, to include himself of course. What has been done gives cover to those who want to vote for the renewal of the AWB, but where leary of doing so for various reasons. After all if the President supports it, why shouldn't a RINO vote for it? Lots of those RINOs come from districts ro states where voting for it wont' hurt much with their electorate. Of course the opposite is also true, there are many Dems, well some, who would vote against renewal, if not for Democratic party discipline, which of late has been stronger and more effective than Republican disciplinem they would vote for a new AWB, even if it might cost them some votes in their district. Bottom line, with things so closel split, I belive there are more RINOs than DINOs.
I appreciate the military scenario which you have posed that makes our might ineffective and I agree with your analysis...as stated. The US population forming an asymmetrical guerilla style resistance against a military enemy coming at them as a front would be quite vulnerable.
However, I would take strong issue with your assumption that our own military would somehow become the enemy of the people.
Well....that isn't going to happen [or not happen] just because we have [or don't have] assault rifles. Let's be real.
The US military is composed of ordinary citizens, not an elite and isolated group of superior beings. The U.S. military is you and me! That is especially evident on a site like FreeRepublic.com. The obvious flaw being, how would you get the ordinary soldier to cooperate in this attack on his own people?
So when you argue against an assault weapons ban why do you pose a situation that is such obvious and radical fantasy? Tell us the real reasons, if you know them.....use plausible scenarios!
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Good point. The military would not be the enemy of the people. In the upcoming troubles, the enemy would be political leaders, and anti-gun supporters. Their "army" would be made up of BATF agents, FBI agents and police forces.
You don't believe many armed citizens are going to attack a Marine base, do you? The first targets will be vocal anti gunners, in political office and out. No one will walk onto the floor of the Senate and start spraying bullets. That would be insane. Read Unintended Consequences. Something similar would be my guess.
Regular people wouldn't even know what was going on until it was halfway over.
Why honey, you use NATO, the U.N., or have an army full of foreigners working their way to citizenship, kinda like is starting now.
It is time to speak plainly for the good citizens and patriots of this nation who believe unbendingly in the Constitution of the United States of America. Though foreign governments may disarm their subjects, we will not go down that road. We will not disarm and see our freedoms stripped away.
The lessons of history are numerous, clear and bloody. A disarmed population inevitably becomes an enslaved population. A disarmed population is without power, reduced to childlike obedience to – and dependent upon – the organs of a parental state. A disarmed population will lose – either piecemeal or in one sweeping act – those basic rights for which the citizens of America risked their lives and fortunes over 200 years ago. We will not disarm.
The right to self protection – the internal directive of every living creature, be it mouse or man – is the most fundamental right of all. It is the right that must be exercised against the predators of the streets, against the predators hidden within agencies of law enforcement, and against the most dangerous predators of all – those to be found in government, whose insidious grasping for power is relentless and never-ending. We will not disarm.
Not in the face of robbers, rapists and murderers who prey upon our families and friends. Nor in the face of police and bureau agents who would turn a blind eye to the Constitution, who would betray the birthright of their countrymen; nor in the face of politicians of the lowest order – those who pander to the ignorant, the weak, the fearful, the naïve; those indebted to a virulent strain of the rich who insulate themselves from the dangers imposed upon other Americans and then preach disarmament.
We will not surrender our handguns. We will not surrender our hunting arms.
And we will not surrender our firearms of military pattern or utility, nor their proper furnishings, nor the right to buy, to sell, or to manufacture such items.
Firearms of military utility, which serve well and nobly in times of social disturbance as tools of defense for the law abiding, serve also in the quiet role of prevention, against both the criminal and the tyrannical. An armed citizenry – the well regulated militia of the Second Amendment, properly armed with military firearms – is a powerful deterrant, on both conscious and subconcious levels, to those inclined towards governmental usurpations.
An armed citizenry stands as a constant reminder to those in power that, though they may violate our rights temporarily, they will not do so endlessly and without consequence. And should Americans again be confronted with the necessity of – may God forbid it – throwing off the chains of a tyrannical and suffocating regime, firearms designed to answer the particular demands of warfare will provide the swiftest and most decisive means to this end.
Any law which prohibits or limits a citizen’s possession of firearms of military utility or their proper furnishings, provides an open window through which a corrupt government will crawl to steal away the remainder of our firearms and our liberties. Any law which prohibits or limits a citizen’s possession of firearms of military utility or their proper furnishings, being directly contrary to the letter and spirit of the Second Amendment, is inimical to the Constitution, to the United States of America, and to it’s citizens.
Now – today – we are witnessing the perilous times foreseen by the architects of the Constitution. These are times when our government is demanding – in the guise of measures for the common good – the relinquishment of several rights guaranteed to Americans in the Constitution, foremost among which is the right to keep and bear arms for our own defense.
These are times when our government has abdicated its primary responsibility -- to provide for the security of its citizens. Swift and sure punishment of outlaws is absent, and in its place is offered the false remedy of disarming of the law-abiding. Where this unconstitutional action has been given the force of law it has failed to provide relief and has produced greater social discord. This discord in turn now serves as the false basis for the demand that we give up other rights, and for the demand for more police, more agents of bureaucratic control to enforce the revocation of these rights.
Legislators, justices and law officers must bear in mind that the foundation of their duties is to uphold the fundamental law of the land – the Constitution. They must bear in mind that the unconstitutional act of disarming one’s fellow citizens will also disarm one’s parents, spouse, brothers, sisters, children and children’s children. They must bear in mind that there are good citizens who – taking heed of George Washington’s belief that arms are the liberty teeth of the people – will not passively allow these teeth to be torn out. There are good citizens who – taking heed of Benjamin Franklin’s admonition that those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety – will surrender not one of their rights.
Those who eat away at our right to own and use firearms are feeding on the roots of a plant over two centuries old, a plant whose blossom is the most free, most powerful nation ever to exist on the face of this planet. The right to keep and bear arms is the taproot of this plant. All other rights were won at the point of a gun and will endure only at the point of a gun.
Could they speak, millions upon millions of this world’s dead souls would testify to this truth. Millions upon millions of the living can so testify today. Now – today – is a critical moment in our history. Will we Americans passively lie down before a government disdainful of it’s best citizens? Or will we again declare: WE are the government, government functions at our behest, and it may not rescind our sacred rights? Will we place our faith in public servants who behave like our masters? Or will we place our faith in the words and deeds of the daring, far-seeing men and women whose blood, sweat and tears brought forth this great nation? Will we believe those who assure us that the police officer will shield us from the criminal? Or will we believe our eyes and ears, presented every day with news of our unarmed neighbors falling prey in their homes, on our streets, in our places of work and play?
Will we bow our heads to cowards and fools who will not learn and do not understand the lessons of human history? Or will we stand straight and assume the daily tasks and risks that liberty entails? Will we ignore even the lessons of this present era – which has seen the cruel oppression of millions on the continents of Europe, Asia, Africa and South America – and believe that the continent of North America is immune to such political disease? Or will we wisely accept the realities of the world, wisely listen to and make use of the precautions provided by our ancestors?
Will we be deceived by SHAMELESS LIARS who say that disarmament equals safety, helplessness equals strength, patriotism equals criminality?
Or will we mark the words of our forefathers, who wrote in plain language: The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed? Let us make known:
We will choose the latter option in every case.
Legislators: Do your duty to your country. Uphold the Constitution as you swore to do. Do not shame yourselves by knocking loose the mighty keystone of this great republic – the right to bear arms.
Justices: Do your duty to country. Examine the origins of our right to weaponry and uphold the letter and spirit of the Constitution.
Lawmen: Do your duty to your country. Do not be misguided and misused. Your task is to serve and protect – not to oppress, to disarm and to make helpless your countrymen.
To the blind, the ignorant, the apathetic, the safe and sheltered, these may seem to be concerns of another age. They are not. They are as vital as they ever have been through history. For times may change but human nature does not. And it is to protect forever against the evil in human nature that the Founding Fathers set aside certain rights as inviolable. For these reasons we must now make known: We will not passively take the path that leads to tyranny. We will not go down that road.
WE WILL NOT DISARM.
Source: Soldier of Fortune Published: nov.,94 Posted on 11/18/1999 18:40:13 PST by red-dawg
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