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Boom Times for Repo Guys
New York Times ^ | 4/18/03 | RICH BEATTIE

Posted on 04/18/2003 5:23:02 PM PDT by arete

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TO stem these losses, lenders say they are increasing their credit requirements. Yet at the same time, they're also encouraging people to borrow by offering zero percent down or extending loans to 75 months from 60 months.

I talked to a local "recovery specialist" who told be that his business is absolutely booming and sees it getting better as the auto makers try to push more inventory off their lots. He said that it is not unusal to repo a car from a guy and then have to go back again 6 months later and get another from the same person.

Richard W.

1 posted on 04/18/2003 5:23:02 PM PDT by arete
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To: bvw; Tauzero; Matchett-PI; Ken H; rohry; headsonpikes; RCW2001; blam; hannosh4LtGovernor; ...
FYI

Comments and opinions welcome.

Richard W.

2 posted on 04/18/2003 5:24:18 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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To: arete
A repo man is intense.
3 posted on 04/18/2003 5:25:25 PM PDT by 07055
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To: arete
There was a article a few days back on the Pawn Shop industry. It too is booming, big time.
4 posted on 04/18/2003 5:28:03 PM PDT by Brian S (YOU'RE IT!)
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To: Brian S
An acquaintance recently opened a pawn shop to sell the stuff off the street on ebay. It seems to be working quite well
5 posted on 04/18/2003 5:32:24 PM PDT by KansasCanadian (My sources are telling me to avoid Rita Cosby)
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To: arete
How interesting. Well, I was getting bored in my current career anyway...
6 posted on 04/18/2003 5:32:40 PM PDT by patton (DUCT TAPE! Get the DUCT TAPE!)
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To: arete
"Repo Man" - one of the wildest science fiction movies ever made. A classic!
7 posted on 04/18/2003 5:37:53 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: arete
According to the repo trade association Time Finance Adjusters, banks took back some 2.25 million autos last year.

The economy is getting stronger every day.

8 posted on 04/18/2003 5:52:57 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: arete
my father-in-law had trouble with an idiot repo-dude last year who kept trying to take his truck, not only was he not behind in his payments, but he bought it with cash.

After chasing the guy away with a shotgun four times, and half a dozen calls to the police and threatening a restraining order the idiot finally stopped trying to swipe his truck.

You would think after the keys didn't work and the names didn't match the redo-dude might have done a little homework rather than wasting three months trying to repo the wrong truck.

I don't think this occupation attracts the best and the brightest

9 posted on 04/18/2003 6:09:19 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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Amazingly, this theft is 100 percent legal. Max Pineiro is a repo man.

That’s because this “theft” isn’t theft in most states. It’s recovering someone else’s property that is illegally being used.

Anyway, you have to be careful if you do this type of job in Texas. It used to be that you could use lethal force to protect yourself or your property – especially at night. The general rule of thumb is that if you can take the car and remove it from the premises, it constitutes a repo. If you get killed in the process, the guy prevented the theft of property that he was legally responsible for making payments on. At least that’s the way it used to be.

That’s why the towing company I worked for as a kid (owned by an ex-cop) used a paid off duty (but uniformed) officer to come along to notify the owner that it was a legitimate repo. On top of that, we’d try to do it in the daytime and preferably get it from the parking lot of the guy’s job if he had one.

10 posted on 04/18/2003 6:10:13 PM PDT by thatsnotnice
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How interesting. Well, I was getting bored in my current career anyway...

As long as you're good with a coat hanger.

Richard W.

11 posted on 04/18/2003 6:11:00 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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The economy is getting stronger every day.

Is that the Chinese economy?

Richard W.

12 posted on 04/18/2003 6:15:44 PM PDT by arete (Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
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I'm gonna start small. Tricycles. Work up from there. Hope some 4-year-old drug dealer doesn't off me with his squirt gun...
13 posted on 04/18/2003 6:23:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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You use a gadget called a slim jim. Though usually you have a key. I helped my Dad repo a few cars a couple of decades ago. It is a major hoot. If I wasn't such an honest sumbich nobody's car would be safe.
14 posted on 04/18/2003 6:38:08 PM PDT by Rifleman
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If the debtor catches him and tells him to get lost, the law says he has to leave — unless he's a good sweet talker.

What the h### kind of law is that? (and this is a J.D. asking here) If the financing contract says that the lender has the legal right the repossess the vehicle if the payments aren't up to date, then the lender's agent has the legal right to repossess it, and the borrower has no legal right to interfere. Maybe the Socialist State of New York has passed some weird law specific to car-repos, but this sounds mighty odd. The repo guys can legally snatch the car, except if the borrower happens to see him starting to do it and asks him to stop, and then it would be illegal???

15 posted on 04/18/2003 6:39:39 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: arete
Actually, you would be surprised.

Chalk it up to a misspent childhood, as a paratrooper in the us army.

I still have a slim-jim in my truck.

16 posted on 04/18/2003 6:39:41 PM PDT by patton (DUCT TAPE! Get the DUCT TAPE!)
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Anyway, you have to be careful if you do this type of job in Texas. It used to be that you could use lethal force to protect yourself or your property – especially at night.

Still true today. Here is the relevant law. Penal Code 9.42.

§ 9.42. Deadly Force to Protect Property

A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Folks, this only applies to TEXAS. I think Texas is unique in this law. If you are on my property at night and I shoot you in the back with my property in your hands while you are running away, I cannot be prosecuted. We take our neighbor's fences mighty seriously down here. Don't try this in your state.

17 posted on 04/18/2003 6:42:13 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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Repo guys take everything from A.T.M.'s to office furniture to jet skis

Don't tell me the NYT flubbed an apostrophe... that would just break my heart.

18 posted on 04/18/2003 6:44:05 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: sarcasm
And things were so good when the slickmeister was POTUS, I am just besides myself that George Bush caused this great economic colamity BEFORE HE EVEN GOT SWORN IN.
19 posted on 04/18/2003 6:44:39 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: arete
Makes me glad I pay my trucks off soon after I buy them. No repo man for me.
20 posted on 04/18/2003 7:14:42 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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