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The Substandard Performance of African American Republicans(food for thought)
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| 18 April 2003
| Trueblackman
Posted on 04/18/2003 8:18:52 AM PDT by Trueblackman
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Time for a little tough love before the 2004 Election
To: Trueblackman
It must sometimes be a lonely road for you to walk. I hope you know that there are many, many FReepers here that admire your efforts and applaud your thoughts.
Bump from Ventura County! (Formerly from Nothern Virginia/D.C. area)
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posted on
04/18/2003 8:27:51 AM PDT
by
Rabid Dog
To: Trueblackman
Good article.
You've got to point out the conspiracy of the rich folks that run the DemocRat party. They're so rich that a little tax raise here or there against themselves means nothing compared to the power they get. Increased power brings in more than enough money to compensate for the tax increases they vote on themselves.
African-Americans can smell a real conspiracy a mile away. Unfortunately, they can't smell a real one that has lasted generations. White DemocRats keep power by sucking up to the black commmunity.
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posted on
04/18/2003 8:28:26 AM PDT
by
peeve23
To: Trueblackman
"...the average Democrat Voter in Ward 8 shares some of the same conservative values of our party."
This reminds me of the first Gulf War. All I saw on the news was how Blacks opposed the war, and all I saw in my mostly Black neighborhood (of Jersey City, NJ btw) were yellow ribbons and signs supporting our troops and our nation.
People just will NOT vote for a candidate if they are not ASKED to. They may not vote for a person even if they are asked, but asking is a key. If I were ever to run for office I would campaign among all voters, even those unlikely to vote for me. After all, I'd be aspiring to represent them too.
Black Republicans will continue to make progress and Republicans will continue to make progress among Blacks.
Damn the Liberal Media, FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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posted on
04/18/2003 8:40:05 AM PDT
by
jocon307
To: Trueblackman
As a 52-year old African American female, I agree with you 100%. Al Sharpton has it right when he says that the Democratic Party takes the African American vote for granted. Unfortunately, he's in the wrong party, and there are no other key issues that I agree with him on. We have alot of African Americans who write thought provoking articles about the subject, but I've seen very little put into action. We need to be more vocal, radical if necessary. My sister and I have been protesting in front of an abortion clinic located in a black neighborhood in Washington, DC. The statistics show that 79% of the abortion clinics are located in poor black neighborhods. African Americans consitute 12% of the population, yet African American women (and girls) undergo 35% of U.S. abortions. This is black genocide, yet it's shocking that so many in the African American community are pro-choice (pro-death). Historically, Republicans (and definitely African American Republicans) do not make half the noise that Democrats make. What is one to do to get this message out?
To: Trueblackman
There are plenty of blacks out there who hold your values, and loathe the exploitive race merchants like PUSH. Jesse Lee Peterson is the perfect example. However, Rev. Peterson, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams... they're all branded as "Uncle Toms" by the liberal black caucus. I think that may play a role in the reluctance of blacks to openly admit the conservative/moral views they possess. They fear being unfairly branded by the likes of Michael Eric Dyson and Jesse Jackson.
To: Trueblackman
Admire your thoughts.
We need to increase the visibility of the sensible voices in the African community - Watts, Rice, Keyes,yourself.
How can that be done?
To: Trueblackman
I've always believed in leading by setting a good example, which is what most blacks in the Republican party seem to be doing. Unfortunately, it's difficult to spread the word, when most of the media deliberately ignore their accomplishments, and prefer to dwell on the standard litany of negatives, which the Jesse Jackson types are so skilled at exploiting. Then there's the problem of those in academia, who seem to teach that "black history" is a justification for emppowering socialists.
There are, in my opinion, many institutional barriers to progress, but such barriers are rarely the now-discredited institutions like the Klan. All the barriers these days seem to be on the side that claims to be "solving" problems. So the work ahead will be especially difficult, because it involves changing the mindset of those who imagine they are "doing good," when in reality they are the problem.
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posted on
04/18/2003 8:47:53 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
To: Trueblackman
re: These African American Republicans are simply out for themselves and use the party to boost their own standing. )))
Well.
You know, there are a lot of self-interested people in all colors and parties. Politicians become politicians, except for the Extremely Saintly, because they love attention and power. It's not unnatural.
Think you put those goalposts too high.
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posted on
04/18/2003 8:48:49 AM PDT
by
Mamzelle
To: mhking
ping
To: Trueblackman
If Republicans could make sufficient inroads into the African-American community just to the point of getting 20% or 25% of the vote, this would make a huge difference in many elections. It would certainly impact every presidential election as well as the battle for control of the House and Senate. Once the 25% barrier was broken, many more credible Black Republican candidates and leaders could emerge, and the movement could mushroom.
Common sense tells us that many Blacks share conservative values, and if you look at the problems that face so many Black neighborhoods-- high crime, unwed births, deterioration of family structures, poor academic performance, etc.-- then it is obvious that the solutions lie in restoring the values championed by Republicans, not in more government programs.
Who is going to be the Martin Luther King, Jr. of the 21st Century? Who will be the leader that targets the true villians and shows the path to economic independence and achievement of the American Dream?
To: conservativeinbflo.
Right again. As a conservative black, I'm constantly reminded that I'm not "black" enough if I hold conservative views....and to support President Bush, that's the epitomy of being an "Uncle Tom". Case in point, several weeks ago a "friend" of mine told me that I was a "privileged" black who wasn't sensitive to black issues....not "black" enough! Imagine that! In regards to Colin Powell and Condeleeza Rice.....liberal democrats (both black and white) don't know what to do with them. If these two same individuals held these same positions in a Democratic presidency, they would be lauded from the rooftops! Did you ever notice that when the liberals attack President Bush, it's always Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld? Mr. Powell and Ms. Rice are never mentioned, they're just ignored! Yet they played key roles during the pre-war fight with the UN Security Council. The Democracts would love to lay claim to being the first party to have two African Americans in such high positions. (This is a first and I applaud the Republic Party.) That's why the Dems are opposing the nomination of Mr. Estrada.)
Mr. Frist needs to get radical!) Yet, the Republicans are accused of being racist! When will the African American community wake up from their coma and see the Democratic Party for what it really is? They are enablers and they have enslaved the African American community mentally, psychologically, and economically and they don't even know it.
To: Trueblackman
Bless you!
I was thinking of two ways to make traction:
Call on the hypocrisy of the pastors that allow Democrats to come into the Church and preach to the flock for votes!! I never, ever understood this. These politicians don't deserve to walk up to the door let alone to lead the pulpit.
To: mabelkitty
Second way is to nurture conservative minority businesses.
If anybody has a list, let's start it up and support it.
BET has way more legitimacy and power because of money, and not for ideas and opportunity.
To: Trueblackman
Some good news. Over in Michigan, Bill Hardiman was elected to the state senate in one of the five toughest races last year. He was the mayor of Kentwood(mostly white) which is a suburb of Grand Rapids, but grew up in a ghetto part of Grand Rapids which was part of the district. Hardiman did much better than expected in the black precincts and won overall by 7500 votes(out of 82,000).
He went there and campaigned hard, and more importantly, people knew him and trusted him.
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:04:56 AM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Tough love, indeed.Part of the problem, Kevin, is that too many expect us to hold the standard for the entire country, laudable goal, though that may be.
At the same time, those in the lofty perches cannot stand without support from beneath. The notion of conservative blacks in high offices is wonderful, indeed. But without the supporting cast in local and state office, it becomes difficult to expand that base.
I agree with you - there are black conservatives who are out for themselves singularly. Yet the vast majority of us are in the trenches every day. We provide the day-to-day visibility; we stand in line at the bank and at the grocery stores; we show that conservative blacks are just as concerned about good schools and safe streets as everyone else. We show that we are not the "evil, advantageous ones" who would "sell our very souls" to some etherial "devil."
Standing on the national stage is good. We need to have that. But we need those on the local and regional levels as well. Our presence provides that. It shows people around us that there is a reason for being. It shows that we all have something to say and to contribute.
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:05:23 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: Mamzelle
Think you put those goalposts too high.Too high? Not really. Those who would undermine any efforts would certainly need to be addressed in some fashion. The "tough love" suggested could be the wake-up call needed...
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:07:35 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: mhking
Yes, but politics is sometimes in the (red) blood. To expect one's reps to be totally selfless is not going to get you good representatives. Those who are high-school presidents often go on to want other elective offices...and self-promotion certainly doesn't cut Democrats out of the running!
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:11:42 AM PDT
by
Mamzelle
To: Trueblackman
Kevin, as always, a thoughtful and provocative essay. My comments:
Most blacks are heavily concentrated in so called "minority" districts, which were originally advocated by the Dems to create safe seats...The GOP one-upped them, when they realized that by putting all the blacks, who overwhelmingly vote Dem into one district, they would make the ajoining districts safer for Republicans. Thus, BOTH parties benefit from the system....Until the SC throws out these districts, it's going to be harder for a black Republican to win in a black district, ( he'd have to win over 50%+ of the black Dems..which is a hard row to hoe)....rather, a conservative black Republican would have a much beter chance of winning in a conservative district, either mult-racial or even predominantly white. So, seems to me that this would be a better way to allocate those election resources, and grow the candidates. At the same time, we can't ignore the mostly black districts....because if we can peel away even 5-10% of the votes to the GOP ticket..it could make a HUGE difference in statewide totals, and thus a senate seat or an electoral college vote could be swung to our side...
Also, remember that the incumbents of any strike has such a huge advantage in House races....it's hard to effect the change you're seeking...but it's coming.....actually, as the CBC becomes more senior in the Dem caucus, and more ossified, and moves farther to the left...it'll be easier for conservative black Republicans to distinguish themselves, move tothe middle ground, and win a few seats..
BTW..a few weeks ago..I commented on one of your threads, where your voiced a similar complaint....I asked you when were you running for congress...I said I'd come done and work for free on your campaing, I'm sure many otheres here would help.....what's your CD? I didn't get an answer..I figured you missed my reply, as you no doubt get so many..
PPS...I'm pinging you on an essay I posted yesterday..I speaks in part to this issue...I'd welcome your comments......regards..and a happy holiday..
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:16:28 AM PDT
by
ken5050
To: San Jacinto
If republicans could get 25% of the black votes, there would not be another democrat elected nationally. Democrats need the black vote in a major way. Too bad republicans can't seem to find a way to let blacks and other minorities know who the real racists are in this country.
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:18:11 AM PDT
by
zeugma
(If you use microsoft products, you are feeding the beast.)
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