Confederate Memorial Day will honor soldiers who sided against the Union

staugustine.com ^ | 18 April 2003 | PETER GUINTA

[putupon]

You need to get in touch w/ the dude in my post 196, ya'll have alot in common

[Non-Sequitur]

there were a large number of European nations who were ready to recognise the CSA, as soon as the war was won, including Denmark, several German states,South Africa, France & Great Britain.

Sure, had you won. Just like the rest of the world joined France and Spain in recognizing the United States once they had won their independence. Everyone will back a winner and nobody, but nobody will back a loser. As the south found out.

[Non-Sequitur]

And McPherson's data is not only unchecked, it's suspect by his very leanings

This from the man who posts from Russian confederate websites and has been know to quote from Edgar Lee Masters?

[stand watie]

i note that you didn't respond to my reminding you that MOST American Indians favored the south over the hatefilled,racist, exploiting north.

also, i wouldn't agrue with your comment, especially since NOBODY recognized the 13 colonies until after Yorktown either.

free dixie,sw

[billbears]

This from the man who posts from Russian confederate websites

That picture is available at many sites. I just happened to post from the first one. And so what if it's Russian? The Cold War is over and the last time I checked they currently exhibit more of a capitalistic society than the Empire has done in 40 years.

As for Masters, I would argue that support of the Confederacy by any level is to steer away from the Socialist line that Sandburg and McPherson have so readily picked up

[Non-Sequitur]

i note that you didn't respond to my reminding you that MOST American Indians favored the south over the hatefilled,racist, exploiting north.

No, I didn't find it worth commenting on. also, i wouldn't agrue with your comment, especially since NOBODY recognized the 13 colonies until after Yorktown either.

Argue away. France recognized the independence of the colonies and signed a treaty of alliance with them in Paris on February 6, 1778. It was, BTW, the last alliance the United States would sign for 171 years. The seige of Yorktown ended with the surrender of Cornwallis on October 19, 1781. Your accuracy us up to it's usual standards.

[stand watie]

i'm NOT surprised that you think Indians un-important.

what year did France first send us an ambassador?

1782, wasn't it?

free dixie,sw

[Non-Sequitur]

And so what if it's Russian? The Cold War is over and the last time I checked they currently exhibit more of a capitalistic society than the Empire has done in 40 years.

Just an odd choice for someone with your highly developed anti-socialist tendencies.

As for Masters, I would argue that support of the Confederacy by any level is to steer away from the Socialist line that Sandburg and McPherson have so readily picked up.

I'm sure his collegues on the All-America Anti-Imperialist League would disagree with that. After all, it was established by the Communist Workers Party.

[Non-Sequitur]

They accepted our ambassador in 1778. A gentleman named Benjamin Franklin I believe.

[SCDogPapa]

"Where'd you get your info? SCV or League of the South? Hate groups don't make real objective sources."

Nope,,,Google search on Capt. Isaac Heysinger

[SCDogPapa]

"See also #179 in this thread."
"How very odd."

Not odd at all,,I didn't read that one.

[SCDogPapa]

"No matter who wrote this (and Dr. Steiner definitely did), he's not very credible."
"Neither are you."

And you are??

[billbears]

Hate groups don't make real objective sources.

Oh, but you'll take that material spewed by Asa Gordon as the written word of God then won't you? The argument could be said the same about your material from Mcpherson. That same article is on Asa's website. Even though it came from another source just as Heysinger's quote did. So does that mean I can dismiss it out of hand just because it's there as well? Or do I have to wait to dismiss it out of hand based on McPherson's political leanings

[stand watie]

interesting.

didn't know it was that early, though i surely knew Dr Franklin was there during the revolution. was he ACTUALLY our ambassador then or just an envoy?

source?

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

when did France send the US an ambassador?

FRee dixie,sw

[WhiskeyPapa]

Nope,,,Google search on Capt. Isaac Heysinger

Check your sources better next time.

This piece of text from --Dr. Steiner-- is all over google.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

Searching just on 'Isaac Heysinger' is not yielding any hits on Google at all.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

Searching on the string 'lewis steiner frederick' is yielding 10 plus pages on Google.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

Hate groups don't make real objective sources.

Oh, but you'll take that material spewed by Asa Gordon as the written word of God then won't you?

Show that Asa Gordon's sources are as bogus as Stand Waite and SCDogPapa's; then get back to me.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

BTW, haven't you tired of posting that same old piece of crap from the WSJ?

Nope. It's in the same file I use with the statement of the rebel congressman who said that white soldiers would refuse to bivouac with blacks, and the one where Howell Cobb said that blacks lacked every qualification to be soldiers.

You neo-rebs don't like to consider the primary sources, but there it is. And when professional award winning scholars use them, you make personal attacks on those professionals.

It's pitiful, really.

Walt