HillaryCare Phase I Complete: You now have a medical I.D. #

Health Sciences Institute newsletter ^ | 4/14/03 | Jenny Thompson

[okiesap]

I'd like to cancel mine as well. Unfortunately, one major surgery without some kind of coverage will wipe me out. Even with coverage, the out of pocket expenses could cause a foreclosure should a person need ongoing prescriptions or treatment. Once the insurance is cancelled, you have to hope you never need it again which is a huge gamble with all the "pre-existing" clauses. Its bend over time.

[FairOpinion]

Yes, but Thommy Thompson could have just killed the entire legislation.

When it was passed during the Clinton "era", some conservatives managed to put in a clause to delay putting into effect, during which time it could have been modified or canceled all together.

Unfortunately there was no public outcry against it, and the Bush administration went along with this.

In my opinion this is far worse than anything in the Patriot act, by several orders of magnitude.

People just don't realize it yet.

[FairOpinion]

"The frog is still cooking."

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You are absolutely right! By the time it would wake up, it will find itself on the dinner table.
We are still marching undeterred towards socialism and full government control.

(In case anyone is not familiar with the frog story:
If you take a frog and put it in boiling water, it will jump out. If you take the frog, put it into cold water and slowly turn up the heat, it will just sit there, until fully cooked.)

Maybe after Iraq becomes a democracy, we can move there -- note there they do allow people to carry guns too. It may end up being closer to democracy, than we are.

[FairOpinion]

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons has been working againt this and Congressmen Ron Paul introduced a bill to overturn these invasion of privacy requirements.

http://www.aapsonline.org/

http://www.aapsonline.org/alerts/pauladalert.htm

On Thursday, April 10, Dr. Paul introduced a new bill in Congress to overturn the privacy regulations and permanently abolish the national patient id. Called the “Patient Privacy Act,” Dr. Paul introduced bill number HR 1699 with these words on the floor of the House:

“Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce the Patient Privacy Act. This bill repeals the misnamed Medical Privacy regulation, which goes into effect on April 14 and actually destroys individual medical privacy. The Patient Privacy Act also repeals those sections of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 authorizing the establishment of a ``standard unique health care identifier'' for all Americans, as well as prohibiting the use of federal funds to develop or implement a database containing personal health information.

“Both of these threats to medical freedom grew out of the Clinton-era craze to nationalize as much of health care as politically possible.

“Establishment of a uniform medical identifier would allow federal bureaucrats to track every citizen's medical history from cradle to grave. Furthermore, as explained in more detail below, it is possible that every medical professional, hospital, and Health Maintenance Organization (HMO) in the country would be able to access an individual citizens' record simply by entering the patient's identifier into a health care database.

“The dangers to liberty inherent in the "uniform health identifier" are magnified by the so-called "medical privacy" regulation.

“Many things in Washington are misnamed; however, this regulation may be the most blatant case of false advertising I have come across in all my years in Congress. Rather than protect an individual right to medical privacy, these regulations empower government officials to determine how much medical privacy an individual ‘needs.'

“…The so-called ``medical privacy'' regulations and uniform health identifier scheme not only reduce individuals' ability to determine who has access to their personal medical information, but actually threaten medical privacy and constitutionally-protected liberties. For example, these regulations allow law enforcement and other government officials' access to a citizen's private medical record without having to obtain a search warrant…”

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[AdSimp]

Guys, this article is more than a bit misinformed. No medical id number. That idea died years ago. Doctors are supposed to give you a notice, just like your bank does, listing what might happen to your personal info.

And since doctors want to be paid, too, they will send your name, and what they did to you, to your insurance company.

Yes, there used to be an option to opt out and not allow the doctor to use your private information. This really meant that you refuse to let the doctor bill the insurance company, so doctors were required to either treat you for nothing, or not treat you at all. Last August Secretary Thompson deleted this from the HIPAA privacy requirement, as it was not a realistic protection.

I will admit there is a lot of confusion among the doctors about this law, but this ain't Hillarycare.

[webstersII]

How about the other provisions in there about not controlling your own records? What about the inability of the patient to limit access to their medical records?

[AdSimp]

You don't control your medical record. Get over it.

Show up at the emergency room with a gunshot wound, they'll call the police. Have a funny skin infection that looks like anthrax, they'll call CDC. Go to the bank with 100G in cash, they'll report it to Treasury.

I don't know where you can move to in the US where this is not the law. Maybe some other country.

[webstersII]

Up until now there has been no centralized scheme for keeping medical records. It looks like this could be the basis for that. Do you agree?

Once a database is established it will become available to anyone who wants the info, just like financial and criminal records.

[AdSimp]

"Up until now there has been no centralized scheme for keeping medical records. It looks like this could be the basis for that. Do you agree?

Once a database is established it will become available to anyone who wants the info, just like financial and criminal records. "

No, sorry, I do not agree. Where do you get the centralized database of medical information? The law just says that you can expect information to go from your doctor to your insurance company, and each entity has to make efforts to protect it.

If you suspect the doctor printed the record out and left it in the dumpster, and can prove it, you can run to your lawyer and make a fortune. Plus the feds can tag the doctor with a penalty. This is a vast improvement over the lack of control that ruled before Monday.

[webstersII]

"Where do you get the centralized database of medical information? "

I thought that was the whole point of the individual number for everyone. Was the number only supposed to concur invisibility and not allow database keeping?

Do you know if it's true that under this new rule you can't refuse to give your medical records to HHS or any other applicable entity that requests them? That would be a departure from the previous system.

[PatrioticAmerican]

I do believe there are three lawsuits pending against HIPAA.

The "government", read Hillary and everyone following behind her, state that socialised medicine is their goal. Seriously. They actually state that it would be a good thing to have the goobermint control healthcare such that "...all people may enjoy the benefits of medical care."

Hillary and her goonies also stated that in 1995 when they were going for this as part of their National Health Plan.

[Terridan]

I have been saying that for the last 25 years, no other solution makes sense... the only difference between Mexico and Iraq are the WMD's... Mexico has no infrastructure nor does it care about its people. Thanks for the response!
Stay well, and best wishes...
Terri

[Lady Eileen]

bump

[IamHD]

lol..I had to cancel my medical insurance because we couldn't afford to pay the $1650- per month premiums. Then, I had to take my daughter to the hospital for some routine, outpatient blood work. They asked me for my insurance card and I told them I had none, and that I'd be paying cash. LOL They refused me, saying that they didn't know how to accept cash.