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White House Seeks to Expand DNA DATABASE...
USA Today ^ | 4/15/2003 | Richard Willing

Posted on 04/16/2003 6:35:26 AM PDT by michaelje

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:40:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: michaelje
plenty!
21 posted on 04/16/2003 7:19:22 AM PDT by m18436572
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To: michaelje
When your identity is compromised, you lose it, and when you have no identity, you have nothing.

Nice, Bush, nice.

Famous But Incompentents: "He was at the crime scene!"
Criminal Prosecutor: "How do you know?"
Famous But Incompentents: "We have a match for his DNA."
22 posted on 04/16/2003 7:21:26 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the only purpose of assault weapons is to kill lots of people quickly, why do police have them?)
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To: mrsmith
I think that Virginia purges DNA evidence if the arrestee is not convicted.

Yeah, right!!!

23 posted on 04/16/2003 7:24:51 AM PDT by nanny
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Gee, why stop with DNA from arrestees? Why not just take a DNA sample from every newborn?

You know that's what they're going to suggest next, don't you? They'll call it "Johnny Doe's Act", or "Janey Roe's Law" or something like that, tell us it's to help find and return kidnapped children...You know the drill : "If it help save one chiiiiiiiiiillldd"...For cases where the parents split up, and the NCP tries to take the kid out of the country, maybe to some ME Islamic state or a European country where they hate the USA anyway, so the laws and treaties on returning parental abductee children are simply ignored. They'll pretend such a law could *somehow* prevent NCP kidnapping, maybe even stranger abduction, so if you're against it, that means you hate children.

Heck, they already have parents bringing their kids in for fingerprinting over "stranger abduction" fears , new parents won't blink an eye over this!

Why, with my proposal, plus the WH's proposal, plus GPS implants-mandatory for the military and parolees/probationers, "voluntary" for the rest of us-they'll have a completely controllable, trackable populace of herd animals in no time!(And this isn't even considering things like cell phones, credit card receipts, the "phasing out" of paper money and substituting debit cards...)

24 posted on 04/16/2003 7:26:02 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: Mark Felton
What BEST said ----

You get my "Best Answer of the Day" Award. It's early yet, but I'm convinced you'll win hands down regardless.

Although I might give it the best of the year.

25 posted on 04/16/2003 7:29:14 AM PDT by nanny
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To: michaelje
I posted an article about medical information privacy today. When they have samples of everyone and there is no more privacy of medical records anymore, then the abuses of the system could be astounding. HillaryCare Phase I Complete: You now have a medical I.D. #
26 posted on 04/16/2003 7:29:38 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Mark Felton
In Europe, liberty is now considered synonymous with sexual license , and with 'group rights' which elevate some over others.

In the USA, liberty is now considered synonymous with "consumer choice" (IOW, lots of things to buy), and with 'group rights', which elevate some over others .

I doubt this is accidental.

27 posted on 04/16/2003 7:29:58 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: inquest
You ain't sseen nothing yet. Wait until patriot ll is sgned into law. The New World Order is just around the corner.

Not to worry, we have "compassionate conservatives" watching out for us in the White House and both houses of Congress.

FReegards
28 posted on 04/16/2003 7:31:02 AM PDT by poet
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To: Mark Felton
What's American liberty?

You can do what you want as long as you follow regulations; pay 45% of your income in taxes; and let the government track your activity.

You can also elect any politician that the Republicans and Democrats put up for office.

Wow I feel Free-errrr already!!

29 posted on 04/16/2003 7:31:48 AM PDT by michaelje
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To: nanny
"Yeah, right!!! "

Are you sure?
There are a lot of snide uninformed childish replies on articles like this... they sometimes are misinterpreted.

30 posted on 04/16/2003 7:33:31 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: APBaer
It's about more power for the government, and more ability to abuse that power.

Think about it.

Saddam might be the vilest person on earth, but go into your room, pull down the shades, take out a pad.

Make two columns.

In one column list everything that Saddam did to *you*, add everything the nutty Talebin did to *you*, add in everything that the fruitcake Kim Il did to *You* Then sum up that column.

Go to the other column.

List there every way that some other government has screwed you around. It might take you some time, hopefully you'll finish by April 15th.

Then sum up that column.

Which column is bigger?

Sssh. Don't tell me, don't even say it out loud.

Just tell these "Conservative" Republicans "Please, sir, can I have some more"?

Very well said. Its ONLY about more power for the government. No matter how you slice or dice, that is the bottom line

Now, can I have somemore please, oh conservative Republicans??

31 posted on 04/16/2003 7:34:12 AM PDT by michaelje
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To: inquest
I sent you this privately as well.

This is scary. So is the medical release laws on medical records. If you DON'T want someone else to access YOUR medical records, well, it really doesn't matter. IF a DOCTOR deems it appropriate then the DOCTOR can OVER RIDE YOUR privacy and send your medical information to who ever wants it. No kidding. This is another Bush privacy debacle.

32 posted on 04/16/2003 7:39:30 AM PDT by nmh
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To: michaelje
This deems you GUILTY of something even if you are not. The ONLY reason they want that database is to have a collection of criminals from which to chose from when a crime is committed.
33 posted on 04/16/2003 7:41:00 AM PDT by nmh
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To: kaylar
Just goes to show how the views of people can vary.
34 posted on 04/16/2003 7:41:30 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: nmh
This deems you GUILTY of something even if you are not. The ONLY reason they want that database is to have a collection of criminals from which to chose from when a crime is committed.

Dont try to tell this to 90% of the memebers on this forum.

35 posted on 04/16/2003 7:43:35 AM PDT by michaelje
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To: AAABEST
You are not allowed to criticize this administration. For your good, please step forward for a lobotomy. Love, Big Brother
36 posted on 04/16/2003 7:49:17 AM PDT by Founding Father
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To: Founding Father
Roger that, pretty soon you'll be labeled as a demon-spawned, liberal/libertarian, dope-smokin, satan-worshipper.
37 posted on 04/16/2003 7:52:43 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: michaelje
90% of this forum believe anything Bush/Ashcroft say and do is gospel. Please do not criticize this administration---free speech means you are free to agree or keep silent.
38 posted on 04/16/2003 7:52:50 AM PDT by Founding Father
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To: nmh
I agree with you, and on a (possibly) related note: Have you ever noticed how often, when a person is arrested for federal crimes , especially involving firearms violations, the news articles always contain the line:

Child porn was found on so-and-so's computer

I'm serious. It's invariably there. This means , I believe , one of two things:

A. All people wanted for federal crimes are such scum bags they're bound to enjoy kiddie porn.

OR

B.FBI and DJ agents are sending illicit images to the hard drives of people they intend to arrest and charge, to make damn sure the jury convicts, just on general principles.

Gee, I wonder which is more likely.

The last case I can remember was last summer. Think the guy was arrested for tax evasion, the agents that arrested him confiscated his (legal) firearms and his computer, and -viola! "child pornography was found on_____ 's computer". But unfortunately, I no longer have the article.

I believe they are already if not framing people,at least adding 'icing to the cake' to make convictions easier to get.

39 posted on 04/16/2003 7:53:03 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: stuartcr
You left out "commynist", disrupter, #@&*$, etc., just to add from some of my recent responses.
40 posted on 04/16/2003 7:56:22 AM PDT by Founding Father
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