As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

[Dan from Michigan]

How many control it? Any chance for a coup if you all run for precinct delegates? With election losses like last time, the timing is right.

[Mini-14]

"Rice is more anti-gun than Bush."

Nope. I read an article in which she defended gun owners, and provided examples of how her father protected her family using firearms.

[diamond6]

I was just scrolling the beginning of this thread trying to learn why exactly this issue is of such importance to fellow FReepers that they'd use it as a "litmus test" and reason to vote against President Bush.

As many of the posts did seem rather hostile, I found your questions brave and thought-provoking. And while I didn't scroll through all the answers, I think now I understand to some degree the other side of the argument. Thank you for your very complimentary post. I believe that the people on this thread who would use the AWB law as a litmus test on whether or not to vote for Bush are on the fringe. I don't believe they see the forest among the trees. I'd like anybody to name for me a potential candidate who is a bigger defender of conservative positions and values than President Bush.

[Ford Fairlane]

At the top level maybe 6 - 10 control it, lawyers & a couple of local media people, but they have the full support of the local "young republican" and "young professional" groups (75% lawyers or legal professionals), at least 50 that are basically toadies that do all the leg work

On my side there are a bunch of pissed off farmers & small businessmen, but we all work 12 hrs a day & finances are limited, plus most of the small businessmen that are not happy with the current state won't do anything because they dont want to get on the bad side of the chamber of commerce or the economic development corp. of macon county, both of which are controlled by the same group of people

[diamond6]

I was just scrolling the beginning of this thread trying to learn why exactly this issue is of such importance to fellow FReepers that they'd use it as a "litmus test" and reason to vote against President Bush.

As many of the posts did seem rather hostile, I found your questions brave and thought-provoking. And while I didn't scroll through all the answers, I think now I understand to some degree the other side of the argument.

Thank you for your very complimentary post. I believe that the people on this thread who would use the AWB law as a litmus test on whether or not to vote for Bush are on the fringe. I don't believe they see the forest among the trees. I'd like anybody to name for me a potential candidate who is a bigger defender of conservative positions and values than President Bush.

[Uncle Bill]

"I'd like anybody to name for me a potential candidate who is a bigger defender of conservative positions and values than President Bush."

Is that some type of joke? Define conservative. You're an attorney. You should be able to do it.

[diamond6]

Can't do it, can you?

[Uncle Bill]

Of course I can. You're the one that just made the comment. You stated that Bush was big defender of conservative positions and values. What are you talking about?

[diamond6]

Name one candidate you would support for the 2004 presidential election that is a bigger defender of conservative positions or values. Is that so difficult?

[diamond6]

Name one candidate you would support for the 2004 presidential election that is a bigger defender of conservative positions and values. Or is that too difficult for you?

[dcwusmc]

Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo...

[Uncle Bill]

Don't change the subject. You stated that Bush was a big defender of conservative positions and values. What are you talking about? Name some. If he's a big defender of them. It should be easy.

[diamond6]

Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo...

Who? Do you really think they have any chance at all?

[diamond6]

I didn't change the subject. It's you make a straight answer to a question. I know exactly who I am voting for in 2004 - George Bush. You're the one who says he's not conservative enough.

[diamond6]

[CORRECTION]I didn't change the subject. It's you who can't make a straight answer to a question. I know exactly who I am voting for in 2004 - George Bush. You're the one who says he's not conservative enough.

[Uncle Bill]

That's what I thought. You can't even defend his BIG conservative positions. And good grief, you state you're an attorney. It wasn't a trick question. I'm ever more hopeful. Thanks.

[diamond6]

Bush's positions are so well known, even someone as ignorant as you can figure them out. But you have answered my question. Must have rendered you speechless. I rest my case.

[Zack Nguyen]

Would you allow a machine gun to be purchased by anyone?

No, a someone with a felony criminal record, or history of mental health problems should not be allowed to own a gun. Other than that I could not care less who owns a machine gun. Very few people intent on murder will drive down to their local ammo supply store and buy a machine gun, register it with the government, pay the requisite taxes, and so on.

[Uncle Bill]

Bush's positions are so well known, even someone as ignorant as you can figure them out.

Name those BIG conservative positions. Come on.

[diamond6]

I'll tell you what. I posed my question first. You name who you would propose for 2004, and I will answer your question. If you can't answer that question, than what you have been espousing throughout this thread is just a lot of hot air. Are you even going to be voting?