What Is the Objectivist View of Libertarianism?

Objectivist Center ^ | 3/03 | David Kelley and William Thomas

[kezekiel]

The answers to these and dozens of similar questions will shape what "libertarianism" means in actual practice; yet surveys have shown that libertarians are deeply divided on many of the answers.

I'll say. That's why I left the Libertarian Party and registered Republican. It boggles the mind the degree to which Libertarians are willing to be "deeply divided" over issues like what makes a Libertarian different from an Objectivist, a distinction that is meaningless to everyone else.

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[Cultural Jihad]

Thanks for posting this pointy-headed article explaining the intricacies of Objectivism, Anarchism, Libertarianism, and Breatharianism.

[eddie willers]

And libertarians can benefit from the moral and epistemological insights of Objectivism.

They sure could.

[Castro]

That's a fantastic essay. I have long been a fan and believer in the words and philosophy of Ayn Rand. More recently, my convictions have led me to feel disenfranchised with the Republican party as a whole. Although many of the libertarians hold different philosophical views than myself, I agree with the premise that the libertarian movement has the capacity to incite change in the political landscape.

[Cultural Jihad]

Do adults have the right to have sex with children?

... surveys have shown that libertarians are deeply divided on many of the answers.

Self-marginalization in practice.

[FastCoyote]

This is why I've taken to calling myself a "Constitutional republican", to distinguish myself from Libertarians, Republicans and conservatives.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

Bump for later.

[eddie willers]

I liked "Liberal"...and that got corrupted.
I liked "Libertarian"...and that got corrupted.

I say "Objectivist" and I get "Huh?"

[PatrickHenry]

Some links for anyone interested in liberty:

Laissez Faire Books.
Ayn Rand Bookstore. (formerly Second Renaissance Books)
Reason Foundation.
Ayn Rand Institute.

[Libloather]

What Is the Objectivist View of Libertarianism?

Open borders, federalized drug program, all laws should be banned.

Nothing redeeming about the whole lot of 'em...

[Roscoe]

First, anyone who advocates a free society must appeal to some philosophical foundation or other.

Tail chasing isn't much of a philosophical foundation.

"Prescription is the most solid of all titles, not only to property, but, which is to secure that property, to government. They harmonise with each other, and give mutual aid to one another. It is accompanied with another ground of authority in the constitution of the human mind-- presumption. It is a presumption in favour of any settled scheme of government against any untried project, that a nation has long existed and flourished under it. It is a better presumption even of the choice of a nation, far better than any sudden and temporary arrangement by actual election. Because a nation is not an idea only of local extent, and individual momentary aggregation, but it is an idea of continuity, which extends in time as well as in numbers and in space. And this is a choice not of one day, or one set of people, not a tumultuary and giddy choice; it is a deliberate election of ages and of generations; it is a Constitution made by what is ten thousand times better than choice--it is made by the peculiar circumstances, occasions, tempers, dispositions, and moral, civil, and social habitudes of the people, which disclose themselves only in a long space of time." -- Edmund Burke

[Cultural Jihad]

Objectivist cartoon...

[xm177e2]

The last time I checked, the "Industrial Workers of the World" was not an Objectivist institution. You are about as honest as the Iraqi Minister of Information.

[jdege]

The fundamental problem with Objectivism is the idea that all answers can be found through reason, and that anything that cannot be explained rationally should be rejected.

Hayek clearly explains that this is not the case. That societies and their moral codes evolve together.

[cinFLA]

That's a fantastic essay. I have long been a fan and believer in the words and philosophy of Ayn Rand. More recently, my convictions have led me to feel disenfranchised with the Republican party as a whole. Although many of the libertarians hold different philosophical views than myself, I agree with the premise that the libertarian movement has the capacity to incite change in the political landscape.

But it seems lately that they are stuck on the "legalize all drugs and all our problems will go up in smoke" movement associating themselves with the socialist anti-gun movements.

[Cultural Jihad]

Objectivists, anarchists, anarcho-syndicalists, they all want freedom from wage-slavery, no?

[Sam Cree]

"Hayek clearly explains that this is not the case"

I agree that Hayek is very convincing on this, he does a good job of explaining why the "rationalism" that is the root of socialism is so flawed.

However, IMO, Objectivism does agree on many points with Hayek. However, I have to admit to not being very knowledgable on Objectivism, I am making surmises based on my recent reading of The Fountainhead, which I enjoyed.

[Dead Corpse]

Right... let's look at that list of yours. Again.

Open borders.

Yes. But only after getting rid of welfare and entitlement programs. Only those willing to work for a living and add value to our society would even WANT to come here. Also, allow our populace thier full right to the tools of self-protection... namely firearms. Anyone coming here looking to cause trouble should be fully cognizant of the fact that a few million armed civilians are keeping an eye out for them.

Federalized drug program.

Bravo Sierra. Ending the WOD ranks right up there on the issue list as high as ending government interference in our medical business. End HillaryCare and End the DEA are both issues on our table. Bush is the one pushing for a prescription drug program for agin hippies.

All laws should be banned.

More bovine fecal matter. Try all laws that do not involve "force, fraud, or theft". Most good laws fit under that catagory. Assault and battery. Murder. Rape. The Enron and Global Crossing fiasco's not to mention we would have had an easier time nabbing the Klintoons under a simplified fraud and theft charges without all the bearucratic dodges built into the system.

All this has been gone over on FR a thousand times and you flying monkies STILL have to come in here and crap all over everything.