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Turning women into cannon fodder
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 11, 2003 | Robert Knight

Posted on 04/13/2003 2:02:45 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: BenLurkin
The thread I was reading, and the remarks I directed toward you were discussing the author's commentary, not TGJ's opinion.

For the most part, I agree with TGJ's opinion, but I fail to recognize where the author wrote of "Those who are expressing hostility toward women are the ones who are happy that they were ordered into harms way, raped and murdered.", so I haven't chosen to contribute to the thread my thoughts, pro or con, on that statement.

What I have contributed to this thread is certainly clear enough. I am not surprised that you can't put your finger on it.
81 posted on 04/13/2003 4:46:50 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy, raised by Yankees, temporarily Californian)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So prove it wrong in regards to gender. You can't.

Your above statement is a oxymoron, if you want me to prove something, then don't say I can't do it.

We are fighting the Leftist/Islamist Fifth Column right now because of this PC crap.

Well I am very anti-PC, but after 40 years of anti-male feminazies, if these women want to go WILLINGLY to fight and possibly die. I say let them, better them, than me be FORCED to do it under a draft and threat of imprisonment.

I shed no tears for them. And your worst fear is that the standards were made equal, because then your arguement would die. Sure, less women would be allowed into the military, but those that do make in, by them being there, PROVES YOU WRONG!!

82 posted on 04/13/2003 4:48:16 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Put your daughter in an infantry company, pal. Let her carry the ruck, the rifle and other gear comparable to what the men carry.

Why not talk to the men training beside women and find out if women can cut it without help? I have.

Tell those soldiers they don't know what they are talking about when they lay it out for you.

83 posted on 04/13/2003 4:49:13 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Paul C. Jesup
You're wrong. Anything that would prevent what happend to Lori Piestewa from happening again I would support.

If the standards were equal, I would be happier than I am now because none of these women would have been taken hostage, and Lori Piestewa would be alive.

You reveal that you want women to die on the front lines because you are too much of a craven coward to do the job yourself. If I could get my hands on you, you'd shed plenty tears for them.

84 posted on 04/13/2003 4:55:13 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
In which army unit will Chelsea Clinton be fighting for her country?

The same one that Jenna Bush is in. The idea that either one would serve in the military is laughable.

85 posted on 04/13/2003 4:55:20 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Blue Collar Christian
I appreciate your taking the time to respond. Your opposition to women in the military is clear.

If you wish to take on the issue posed in Joe's comment, pro or con, I welcome your reasoning. Joe's proposition is a solid start for discussion on the topic.

Obviously, it is enough for someone to simply be opposed or in favor of something without exploring in themselves or with others the reasons why. That is often the meat of many convictions. But if there is a rationale, or argument for or against, then others can benefit from the discussion.

86 posted on 04/13/2003 4:55:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Yes, President Bush is in charge of our military, but he cannot just arbitrarily change what Slick did to the Risk Rule. He's President, not KING.

So what kind of a rule is it that the previous President can pass for the military and the next President cannot remove?

87 posted on 04/13/2003 4:56:46 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Blue Collar Christian
He said women are being ordered into harms way and that feministst are behind that. This is false. They are not being oredered into harms way, they voluteer for the military. There is no draft and females are not "ordered" into harms way.
88 posted on 04/13/2003 4:57:29 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Tailgunner Joe
For an army that Mr. Knight claims was ruined by all those Clinton policies it sure kicked some serious Iraqi ass, didn't it? I'm not sure how they could have done better.
89 posted on 04/13/2003 4:57:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Put your daughter in an infantry company, pal. Let her carry the ruck, the rifle and other gear comparable to what the men carry.

I have no children and the current marriage, divorce, and child-support laws (all thanks to the anti-male feminazis) make it VERY UNATTRACTIVE to have a family in this country at this time.

Why not talk to the men training beside women and find out if women can cut it without help? I have.

So have I and I have also talked to women who used to be in the military. And both the men and the women have a lot to say on the subject, both positive and negitive. Most of their main gripes being that the standards should be set EQUAL and higher.

Tell those soldiers they don't know what they are talking about when they lay it out for you.

See my above sentence.

90 posted on 04/13/2003 4:57:58 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Non-Sequitur
Tell it to Lori Piestewa.
91 posted on 04/13/2003 4:59:35 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Gnarly
That statement doesn't seem irrelevant to me. I'll try to come up to your standards of the joust.

Tell me the statement on which I commented didn't throw a wrench in his gears.

I could go along with "Single women don't leave a legacy of motherless children."

Dead fathers leave a legacy of broken homes and single parent families.
92 posted on 04/13/2003 5:00:15 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy, raised by Yankees, temporarily Californian)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
if these women want to go WILLINGLY to fight

Right now since it's a volunteer military everyone goes willingly ----but what if there was a draft again? Wouldn't all the same equality arguments apply to that too? Women are strong and brave and fully equal to men so should be sent to combat zones ----then wouldn't that hold true of unvoluntary service also? It can't be both ways.

93 posted on 04/13/2003 5:02:19 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Tell it to Lori Piestewa.

Or to the two small children she left behind. She was a single mother of two.

94 posted on 04/13/2003 5:03:24 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Lorianne
Lori Piestewa, Shauna Johnson, and Jessica Lynch were in Iraq because they were ordred to be there. That's what soldiers do. They take orders. You are disconnected from reality.


"NEVER FORGET"

95 posted on 04/13/2003 5:05:33 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Women have been in the military a long time but only since feminists repealed the laws that kept them out of combat that they are not sent in to harm's way. First off women are still not allowed in combat positions. Secondly, some women are STILL VOLUNTERRING for military service even understanding they my be deployed closer to combat and at greater risk than in prior times.
96 posted on 04/13/2003 5:06:35 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Tailgunner Joe
They were not ordered into military service. The VOLUNTEERED and they knew the risks, as did the men who volunteered. What part of the word volunteer do you (and others) not understand?
97 posted on 04/13/2003 5:08:35 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Non-Sequitur
Excellent point.
98 posted on 04/13/2003 5:10:22 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: nightdriver
It's too bad that Patsy Schroeder can't be put on the front lines too.

Wow, I have had that dream!

Only in my dream we don't go after her when she is captured.

Pat Schroeder = World Class Puke
99 posted on 04/13/2003 5:10:53 PM PDT by Duramaximus ( American Born, Gun_Toting , Aerospace Worker)
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To: Lorianne
What part of orders don't you understand? Your choices end when you join the military.

If they hadn't been ordered into the combat zone, they wouldn't complain. They'd do as they were ordered. Only Fifth Column Dems and Feminazis would complain that they were safe.

100 posted on 04/13/2003 5:12:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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