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AMERICAN POW's RETURNED IN SAMARRA (CNN)
CNN ^ | 04/13/03

Posted on 04/13/2003 7:30:22 AM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE

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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Praise the Lord!!!

Answered prayers indeed.
81 posted on 04/13/2003 11:18:53 AM PDT by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Christ be praised! An Easter miracle. Thanks to St. Michael, patron of soldiers and airmen, for his many intercessions.

I'm especially glad to see our Texans coming home!
82 posted on 04/13/2003 11:29:25 AM PDT by B-Chan (FR Catholic)
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To: Joe Brower
I love your graphic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
83 posted on 04/13/2003 11:34:25 AM PDT by Minty
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To: BenLurkin
Wonderful painting by Arnold Friberg, a "Mormon" artist who did the set design for DeMille's "The Ten Commandments."
84 posted on 04/13/2003 11:39:04 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: Jeff Head
Bump


85 posted on 04/13/2003 11:53:36 AM PDT by Barnacle (A human shield against the onslaught of Liberal tripe.)
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
I figured that Private Lynch, because of her injuries and being hard to move, was left behind and the others ended up in Baghdad as some kind of shields or whatever, glad to see this ended well, many prayers have been answered.
86 posted on 04/13/2003 12:03:19 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Jeff Head
GREAT NEWS THIS MORNING!

Yes, it was (-:

thanks for the ping
87 posted on 04/13/2003 12:27:35 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
A great day! But not all of the POW's are accounted for yet ... LET US NOT FORGET NAVY LT. SCOTT SPEICHER MIA since 1991!
- A Navy Veteran
88 posted on 04/13/2003 12:54:43 PM PDT by Colt .45 (The People are the supreme authority - James Madison)
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To: Illbay
***Wonderful painting by Arnold Friberg, a "Mormon" artist who did the set design for DeMille's "The
Ten Commandments.***

A good artist as he is transcends religious labels. I had an old calender picture from 1961 that I kept for 40 years till it fell apart. He was the artist.
89 posted on 04/13/2003 1:17:23 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: PackerBoy
***Unlike that Garafalo witch,****

Has she bloodied her knees and palms yet?
90 posted on 04/13/2003 1:19:20 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: Colt .45
Just a question... If PFC Lynch is being called a hero, why aren't these soldiers?
91 posted on 04/13/2003 2:11:10 PM PDT by brickdds
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To: Colt .45
A great day! But not all of the POW's are accounted for yet ... LET US NOT FORGET NAVY LT. SCOTT SPEICHER MIA since 1991!

- A Navy Veteran

He's USN Capt Scott Speicher!!! :)
92 posted on 04/13/2003 2:15:06 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
God Bless America.
93 posted on 04/13/2003 3:50:47 PM PDT by barbarianbabs
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To: Toidylop
I was in error on my first posting about Speicher's rank, but then so are you. He was a Commander which is the equivalent of Lt. Colonel. A Navy Captain would be the equivalent of a full bird Colonel. I don't know if the Navy would promote his grade while his status is posted as missing, but I don't believe that would be the case. I just looked that information up on the web.

Also you don't see many full Captains as a squadron's CO, normally they would be heading up other types of commands such as a Carrier's CO.

94 posted on 04/13/2003 6:25:31 PM PDT by Colt .45 (The People are the supreme authority - James Madison)
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To: Jeff Head
GREAT NEWS THIS MORNING!

Very great news. Thanks for the ping.

95 posted on 04/13/2003 7:08:41 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Jeff Head
Thanks for the ping, Jeff.

Just as everyone else here, I am thrilled to tears that these seven Americans are alive, free, and out of danger. I had a deep discussion yesterday morning with someone who came into my office. We disagreed vehemently on two things: I believed that our prime focus should be to find our own people who have been captured, or who are unaccounted for. Everything else – no matter the urgency – should be secondary. Time is more of the essence in finding our missing/captured people than it is in any other endeavor, because the longer they are unaccounted for, the greater the chance of extended torture and death. (He did not agree.) I also believed that these seven had most likely already been tortured and were no longer alive. (Again, he did not agree.) It appears that he was right on at least one of the two counts. And I have rarely been more grateful to have been wrong. :)

At the risk of being branded a cynic …. and unfeeling …. there is one thing that troubles me about two of the former POWs, Jessica Lynch and Shoshana Johnson. I have heard comparisons made of the two, and, it seems to me, that such comparisons are premature.

From what little that is being made public of Jessica’s treatment while she was in captivity, and the extent (and permanence) of her wounds, it would appear that this young woman is made of mighty special stuff. She sustained multiple fractures of her legs, arm, ankle and foot – some of them ‘open fractures’ (the bone protruding through the skin), severe spinal and head injuries, and was apparently the victim of gunshot wounds. It is highly unlikely, if not impossible, that all of these physical traumas occurred before her capture. So, to my mind, considering the extent and severity of her injuries, and the known barbaric nature of her captors, the fact that she endured severe torture is obvious. And the psychological, and non-observable, internal injuries she endured may even have been more traumatic than those that are ‘visible.’ Jessica must have suffered terribly for the duration of her captivity.

A young Muslim hero saw to it that our troops not only knew of her whereabouts, but put his own (and his family’s) life in jeopardy in order to provide those troops with the logistics information they needed in order to affect her rescue. He testified that he could not have lived with himself had he not done what he did, because ‘peering through an internal window, [he] says he saw a black-uniformed officer whom others addressed as the Colonel slap the woman across the face. ‘The Colonel wanted a certain reaction out of Jessica, and he didn't get what he wanted.

From all accounts, this appears to be a young woman who not only suffered terribly at the hands of the enemy, but who also (either literally or figuratively) clung fast to the ‘name/rank/serial number’ code of conduct, inviting the heightened anger of those who held her life in their hands. And, providentially, it was that courage, and the resulting brutal reaction of the enemy officer, that deeply touched the man who went for help, and that served as the catalyst for the events which led to her rescue.

From all that I know so far, I have deep respect for this courageous young woman, and I believe that she may well deserve to be called a hero, and may even have earned the Purple Heart.

As for Shoshana Johnson, we know little about her captivity so far. She, too, may have exhibited courage, and, as more information is released, we may also have reason to admire her, and to compare her to Jessica. But I believe it is too early to be making such comparisons.

I am no doubt risking being flamed (at the very least), but I cringed when I heard this morning that Ms. Johnson is a single mother. What is a single mother (of a young child? an infant?) doing in a combat (or even near combat) situation? Ideally, a child needs two parents. Her child has but one, and that one chose to place herself in such a situation, potentially condemning her child to orphan-hood? I cannot fathom the reason for such a choice. Economics doesn’t hold sufficient water here. Others who have no children (Jessica, for one), or whose children at least have another parent to care for them, could have filled Ms. Johnson’s shoes. My opinion only, but it is a strongly held one: Ms. Johnson does not belong on a battlefield. She belongs back in America, where her child can enjoy the security of knowing the presence of her only parent.

With that said, I am thrilled that she, and the others, are safe. And if further information supports the fact that she endured her captivity in a way similar to the way Jessica apparently endured hers, I will be cheering her with a voice just as loud. Courage is a rare and awesome commodity that must never be underestimated, or over-characterized.

96 posted on 04/13/2003 7:40:25 PM PDT by joanie-f (Comment vous dites ‘le skunk ungrateful’ en français? Wie sagen Sie ‘ungrateful Hund’ auf Deutsch?)
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To: Colt .45
Yes, the Navy reclassified Cdr Scott Speicher as MIA via KIA and promoted him to full Captain (in your word, full bird Colonel).
97 posted on 04/13/2003 8:09:26 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Colt .45
FOX News had the story about re-classification here
98 posted on 04/13/2003 8:11:28 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: William McKinley
This one takes the cake.

stlsaxman (227 posts) Apr-13-03, 12:13 PM (ET) 36. NPR said the found the POW's walking down a road- Who put them there? Did WE (Rove Propoganda Force) drop them off? "Just wait here and the Press will be by shortly and you'll all be heroes!" Seeing these faces on BBC in the first week of the devistation of Iraq, and no other POW's counted, then these SAME POWS are "freed" after Bagdad is "liberated".... and just "walking down the road" no less? This stinks. And it stinks of Rove. In other words: I don't buy it.

99 posted on 04/14/2003 3:50:16 AM PDT by Clink
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