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Orwell's Warning: Doublethink
The Rational Argumentator ^
| April 11, 2003
| G. Stolyarov II
Posted on 04/11/2003 7:08:41 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II
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To: G. Stolyarov II
..in favor of blandness, monotony, and agreeability.Isn't that all a bit redundant?
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posted on
04/11/2003 8:44:54 PM PDT
by
elbucko
To: Republicanus_Tyrannus; Lurker
Orwell wrote better than you probably remember. I am sure you will enjoy it on another read-through.Orwell writes beautifully; I could only hope to approximate his style when I'm drinking, and then it would look bad in the morning. His message, however, is timeless and unmistakeable.
But, he did accurately lay out the 'logic' necessary to run a truly monstrous totalitarian state. Judging from recent events, one could call Orwell a truly prescient individual.
No doubt. He was a dramatically principled man, who acquired his morality first-hand.
I think I misread the poster's original intent and put my word in where it didn't belong.
To: RLK
I am convinced the key to imposing doublething is control over the structure of language --overuse of the metaphor, evasive (bland) abstraction, deletion of confrontive concepts and vocabulary, and so forth. Really?
I am shocked and saddened!
To: Trailerpark Badass
Orwell is, at best, an amusing distraction.
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So are you, but not nearly so amusing.
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posted on
04/11/2003 9:00:20 PM PDT
by
RLK
To: Trailerpark Badass
1984 was a novel, and a rather mediocre one at that. Presenting it as a study of rhetoric [?]
is emabarassing[sic].
For you. Thank you for sharing that with us.
Even idiots are entitled to an opinion
Should I ever need some more unusual but deep literary insights, I'll look for your trailer park...
To: Trailerpark Badass
Follow any internet chalatan [sic]
you want, but this is trash. And I read it twice. You're not an academic, I hope.
To: Trailerpark Badass
Perhaps your [sic]
right, and I mischaracterized the poster's intent. I just never assumed that something I read in 8th grade would lend itself to "in-depth analysis." Perhaps you should have paid more attention in class; both literary tools and devices and spelling... Got a dictionary? Try "pompousness" and "sophistry".
To: Publius6961
Perhaps you should have paid more attention in class; both literary tools and devices and spelling... Got a dictionary? Try "pompousness" and "sophistry".He He. You serious? I'll follow you around for awhile, mkay?
But I am curious to see if you can actually present an example of sophistry in anything I wrote. I doubt you can.
To: Publius6961
Should I ever need some more unusual but deep literary insights, I'll look for your trailer park...Classic. You're hurt by my slagging of Orwell. What an intellect!
To: RLK
So are you, but not nearly so amusing.Ouch.
Tough guy.
To: Publius6961
You're not an academic, I hope.Nah, I got sick of that crap and decided to make some money.
How bout you?
To: Trailerpark Badass
" I could only hope to approximate his style when I'm drinking, and then it would look bad in the morning." OK, that was really funny.....
You and me both.
Regards,
L
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posted on
04/11/2003 9:33:17 PM PDT
by
Lurker
("One man of reason and goodwill is worth more, actually and potentially, than a million fools" AR)
To: Trailerpark Badass
But I am curious to see if you can actually present an example of sophistry in anything I wrote. I doubt you can."1984 was a novel, and a rather mediocre one at that."
No need to thank me. Ask a hard question next time.
Opinions are a dime a dozen; Useful comments are something else entirely.
And have a nice day.
To: Lurker
Don't get me wrong, I like Orwell. I just thought the essay was unintelligible. And then I catch all this crap from the Clown College. What gives?
To: Publius6961
Pretty pathetic effort, and certainly not sophistry. Do you know what sophistry is?
To: Trailerpark Badass
How bout you? Productive employment my whole life.
Shoulda been born rich, but someone failed to read my manual.
To: Publius6961
Okay, Junior. Produce my sophistry now, or I'll ride your ass till they cank me.
To: Trailerpark Badass
Sophistry: "A plausible but misleading or fallacious statement"
Usually used by academics replete with big words and rife with spelling errors, I might add.
And invariably devoid of content.
To: Publius6961
Oh... LOL
I forgot; Opinion masquerading as insight.
Ride away dude.
Just remember the speed limit is 55 when hauling trailers.
To: Publius6961
Usually used by academics replete with big words and rife with spelling errors, I might add. And invariably devoid of content.But I already told you, I'm not an academic. And you gonna jump on me for typos? On Friday night?
My wife treats me better than that!
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