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Gilligan casts doubt on source of hotel attack [Iraq Responsible For Hotel Kill Shot]
The Guardian ^ | 4-8-03 | Ciar Byrne

Posted on 04/09/2003 10:20:16 AM PDT by Prince Charles

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To: Adam-ondi-Ahman
I think that he would blame the rich for this.


21 posted on 04/09/2003 11:23:20 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Donate to FR. End the fundraising quagmire against the Fedayeen Snuggles.)
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To: dixiechick2000; Prince Charles
Is this the same guy that scolded the BBC for their *wrong* reporting on the war?

Not even close. From Duck Season(click for the rest of the article):

    Saturday, April 5, will be the day most people will remember as the day when the journalistic standards of the World Service committed suicide. The BBC’s bad day in Baghdad started early: A column of US soldiers had entered southwestern Baghdad just after daybreak. The soldiers - in tanks and armored personnel carriers - drove through the city for several kilometers encountering only sporadic resistance. Near the university, the column turned left, drove out of the capital and parked at the international airport, which was already securely in American hands...

    Cut to: Andrew Gilligan, the BBC's man in downtown Baghdad. "I'm in the center of Baghdad," said a very dubious Gilligan, "and I don't see anything… But then the Americans have a history of making these premature announcements." Gilligan was referring to a military communiqué from Qatar the day before saying the Americans had taken control of most of Baghdad’s airport. When that happened, Gilligan had told World Service listeners that he was there, at the airport - but the Americans weren't. Gilligan inferred that the Americans were lying. An hour or two later, a different BBC correspondent pointed out that Gilligan wasn't at the airport, actually. He was nearby - but apparently far enough away that the other correspondent felt it necessary to mention that he didn’t really know if Gilligan was around, but that no matter what Gilligan had seen or not seen, the airport was firmly and obviously in American hands.

    It was important to the BBC that Gilligan not be wrong twice in two days. Whatever the truth was, the BBC, like Walter Duranty’s New York Times, must never say, "I was wrong." So, despite the fact that the appearance of American troops in Baghdad was surely one of the war's big moments, and one the BBC had obviously missed, American veracity became the story of the day. Gilligan, joined by his colleagues in Baghdad, Paul Wood and Rageh Omaar, kept insisting that not only had the Americans not gone to the "center" - which they reckoned to be where they were - they hadn't really been in the capital at all. Both Omaar and Wood told listeners that they had been on hour-long Iraqi Ministry of Information bus rides - "and," said Wood, "we were free to go anywhere" - yet they had seen nothing of an American presence in the city. From Qatar, a BBC correspondent helpfully explained that US briefings, such as that announcing the Baghdad incursion, were meaningless exercises, "more PR than anything else." Maybe, implied the World Service, the Americans had made it all up: all day long, Wood repeatedly reported that there was no evidence to support the American claim.


22 posted on 04/09/2003 2:35:49 PM PDT by TomB
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To: MizSterious
FYI.
23 posted on 04/09/2003 4:55:40 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: TomB
and looking up now just before it got dark at the hole again in the side of the hotel, I still doubt it

Oddly enough, that picture of the very damage he is talking about has disappeared from ALL the internet photo sites.

I saw it, too, before it went missing; I've seen cars hit buildings and do more damage.

24 posted on 04/09/2003 5:00:06 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: Howlin
I'm rather glad that it's a BBC journalist hawking this story...he's one of them.
25 posted on 04/09/2003 5:04:31 PM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: wimpycat
There's more to this.
26 posted on 04/09/2003 5:09:20 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: Howlin
What do you mean?
27 posted on 04/09/2003 5:10:33 PM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: wimpycat
I mean that this story did not happen as the reporters are saying it did.
28 posted on 04/09/2003 5:13:58 PM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: Prince Charles
Gee, the War Slut's not gonna be happy....
29 posted on 04/09/2003 5:15:48 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Howlin
Oh, I knew that. I thought you meant something else. When the reporters were saying that no shots were fired from the hotel, I thought to myself, "How the hell can they know no shots were fired from the hotel?" That's a pretty big hotel. They wouldn't necessarily know if shots were being fired from the hotel.

But maybe, since their Iraqi minders have skedaddled, they might report the story differently.

My husband heard on NPR this morning about an Italian reporter at the hotel, who said his "minder" was a particularly harsh S.O.B., but that this morning his minder was apprehended trying to steal the car belonging to his Italian colleague. They stopped him, and apparently was begging to be let go, then he ran home and the last they saw him, he was trying to tear up his I.D. card. He knows his number is up.

So maybe these reporters will change their tune. Let's see if the journalist's objectivity overcomes the anti-American leftist's biased reporting.

30 posted on 04/09/2003 5:21:14 PM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: Prince Charles
Here's a screen cap of a tank firing on the building...

Note that the gun is not elevated towards the 15th floor.

31 posted on 04/09/2003 5:26:45 PM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: Howlin
I mean that this story did not happen as the reporters are saying it did.

I got that same feeling when the Sky News correspondent was talking today about how it had been trying to report with very hostile "minders" threatening your every word.

32 posted on 04/09/2003 5:36:03 PM PDT by arasina ("Thank you Mister Bush!" [direct quote from liberated Iraqi man])
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To: TomB
Wow! Major faux pas (excuse my French) on my part.

Thanks for the clarification.;o)

33 posted on 04/09/2003 6:48:53 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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