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***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 17 - LIVE THREAD***
EVERYWHERE!!! | 5 APR 03 | An.American.Expatriate

Posted on 04/04/2003 9:04:16 PM PST by null and void

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To: nicmarlo
It is really sad to think of the grief of the families and friends of those who made the ultimate sacrifice for country. I was thinking just last night of the holes that are now in the lives of those families. Holes that will never be completely mended and lives that will never, ever be the same again.

Devastating. And humbling. I pray every day for them.

Prairie
3,681 posted on 04/05/2003 3:22:04 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Wanted: new bunk buddy. Older guys perfectly OK. Language no issue. Call Jacques C. for details.)
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To: Poser
He's a phony, Tony.
3,682 posted on 04/05/2003 3:24:00 PM PST by Consort
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To: ztiworoh
 
You're welcome, z.  FSU can't be all bad. (^;
 
More light reading:
Vet sends 40,000 decks of playing cards to soldiers

3,683 posted on 04/05/2003 3:24:50 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("It's time to be patient and let it play out." - SOD Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Catspaw
And speaking of terrorists:

"Bomb explodes in Afghanistan army base; five servicemen injured"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/886040/posts

Prairie--sigh
3,684 posted on 04/05/2003 3:25:13 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Wanted: new bunk buddy. Older guys perfectly OK. Language no issue. Call Jacques C. for details.)
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To: Consort
Do you think that's a substitute Tony? Hmm. We did see a picture of him today that didn't look like this Tony.
3,685 posted on 04/05/2003 3:25:14 PM PST by Poser
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To: Miss Marple
They're everywhere! They're everywhere!

This is a quote from Karl Zinsmeister (AEI):

"Most of the media embeds, however, are typical reporters--that is, left-wing, cynical, wise-guy, Ivy League types, many with a high prima donna quotient. There are numerous studies showing that the major media are now nearly as liberal, politically and culturally, as university professors. And those are the journalists I've been seeing in a month spent in Iraq and Kuwait with the 82nd Airborne.

...Unfortunately, I have not seen the reporters here make much effort to earn greater trust with the people doing the dirty work of fighting. Many of the journalists in this war theater are bursting with knee-jerk suspicions and antagonisms for the warriors all around them. This is aggravated by their tendency to club together, passing far too much of their desert sojourn gossiping with fellow reporters, snidely mocking military mores, chafing at the little disciplines necessary in the military's life-and-death work, banding off as a clique to watch DVDs on their computers in the evening, rolling their eyes at each other when ideas like honor, sacrifice, or duty enter the conversation."

I know many think the embedded reporters have had a universal change of heart, but I'm more cynical. I think they're after a story, and when they return, the experience will fade into a rather long, bad vacation. One or two exceptions, perhaps, but they've had a lifetime to build disdain for the military, and many old habits are hard to break.

3,686 posted on 04/05/2003 3:26:17 PM PST by Fracas
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To: prairiebreeze
Holes that will never be completely mended and lives that will never, ever be the same again.

All the pride in the world won't fill those holes....I hate war, I wish this war wasn't necessary.....but I love more that we have brave and willing men and women to protect us all from danger.....may we NEVER FORGET.

3,687 posted on 04/05/2003 3:26:49 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
It's gone down hill academically in the last 10 years, it's basically only a football-party school now

UF is similar, but still has a decent academic program, but it has 40,000 undergrads, which scares me a bit, which is why Im not going there. Plus Ive lived in Fl all my life andwant to see other parts of the country
3,688 posted on 04/05/2003 3:27:01 PM PST by ztiworoh
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Vet sends 40,000 decks of playing cards to soldiers

That is a big deal.

3,689 posted on 04/05/2003 3:27:03 PM PST by Consort
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To: Fracas
Well, if that's how they're acting with the 82nd Airborne, perhaps when they cluster together to gossip en errant missile mught come their way.

I have no more patience with people like this.

3,690 posted on 04/05/2003 3:28:12 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Poser
The wind is now so strong it shook a car and triggered its alarm.
3,691 posted on 04/05/2003 3:28:13 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Catspaw
Arnott reported these were the fiercest fighters, probably because they aren't from Iraq, have no place to go home to and define natural born killers.

I heard that, perhaps by Arnott the other day.....desparate people with hatred in their hearts are capable of doing the most evil and wicked things.

3,692 posted on 04/05/2003 3:28:23 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Seminoles OK use of name by Florida teams

Florida Indians aren't PC. (^:

No need to be. The Seminoles never signed a treaty with the US gov't. We're still technically at war...

3,693 posted on 04/05/2003 3:28:27 PM PST by null and void
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To: prairiebreeze
"Bomb explodes in Afghanistan army base; five servicemen injured"

SOB! The Taliban want "their" country back. We are going to make sure they don't get it and terrorize those people again.

Somewhere on FR is a report a close friend of Hamid Karzi was killed yesterday as well.

3,694 posted on 04/05/2003 3:30:39 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Fitzcarraldo
That wasn't the wind...it was the jets.
3,695 posted on 04/05/2003 3:31:10 PM PST by Texas Tea
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To: Fracas
Good post. I remember I was mad about a reporter not bothering to learn the flashes of even the most famous units involved in this war. He was describing the yellow on black flash of the 7th cav and he didn't know who they were. I log onto Free Republic and somebody here knew what company it was (the Vampires).

Free Republic is the best.
3,696 posted on 04/05/2003 3:31:17 PM PST by aloysius89 (fascite magnopere aut iti domun)
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To: Fitzcarraldo; Catspaw
CNN's Nic Robertson, reporting from Jordan

Is this guy pretending to be in Iraq sometimes?

3,697 posted on 04/05/2003 3:31:46 PM PST by Howlin ("We're in and we're staying put!")
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To: Catspaw
It's disturbing that somehow our base security isn't "foolproof". And I know nothing in life is. We're going to see plenty of this garbage in Iraq, I'm afraid.

Prairie
3,698 posted on 04/05/2003 3:32:33 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Wanted: new bunk buddy. Older guys perfectly OK. Language no issue. Call Jacques C. for details.)
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To: chnsmok

Kirk: Bones, what about Ensign Book?
McCoy: He's read, Jim.
3,699 posted on 04/05/2003 3:32:47 PM PST by null and void
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To: Catspaw
From the reports coming in, the fedayeen are at least half non-Iraqi (Bob Arnott reported this today)--they're coming in from Syria and Jordan (probably Palestinians, probably Hamas and Hezbollah), Sudan, Egypt and other countries with large Sunni populations--and a possibility some are al Qaeda or with al Qaeda affiliated groups. Arnott reported these were the fiercest fighters, probably because they aren't from Iraq, have no place to go home to and define natural born killers.

This may be a good thing; let all the Bad Guys get together in one place; it'll make our targeting easier...

3,700 posted on 04/05/2003 3:33:54 PM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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