Jewish lawmakers threaten walk-out over reference to Jesus

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 3, 2003 | Diana Lynne

[TopQuark]

and I don't have to embrace other cultures

Of course not.

The problem with your "logic" is that I was responding to your words where you were DEMANDING from others how to denote deities.

You are a real Rasputin. (No, it's not a compliment).

[Dianna]

. If you are in a mixed company, you seek a common ground. If you pray to G-d, you do not jeopardize any of your Christian beliefs and remain on common ground with Christians of all denominations, Jews, Muslims, and Hindu.

There is no common ground if we are discussing prayer. Who do non-believers pray to? Yet, you are not arguing THAT position. Oh no, we can pray. We just can't be "too Christian" about it.

[SendShaqtoIraq]

""This is a Christian nation" implies by all standards of logic that if one is not a Christian, he is not an American. YOu may not mean it --- and I take your word for it that you do not --- but that is what you say."

Mm. Let's see. Not everyone who lives in Israel is Jewish. Does that mean they are no longer to be considered a Jewish nation?

[TopQuark]

Surely. All those chaplains in the army, all those ministers on the Capitol Hill who somehow do this routinely without any problems --- they are all sellouts.

Looks like some people are more Christian than Christ around here.

[Delphinium]

I am going to bed, its past my bedtime. I can continue in the morning. Good night.

[Rasputin_TheMadMonk]

I never once said I wanted anyone to go away, except perhaps for certain liberals, but I digress.

Jew or gentile, believe what you please. Just don't expect me to put your culture before my own. No more than I would expect you to do the same for mine. My statement concerning God was made without thought to those of jewish ancestry, I don't tend to think of the jews nor the catholics, nor the hindus, nor the buddists, nor the islamicists, nor the raelians, etc. ad nauseum when I make a statement here. I speak from the north american, south eastern, anglo-saxon, baptist Christian point of view. Mine own and none other. It's between me and GOD and no one else matters.

Like it or not, I made no attack against you nor your beliefs, whatever they may be. I find your and TopQuarks indignation somewhat amusing, but that's all that it means to me. I don't 'have' to care.

I don't have to and as long as you live in America, neither do you. It's one of the benefits of living in The Republic.

[TopQuark]

I will help you send Shaq to Iraq and father if you'd do me a favor: read up on the thread; I can't start with you having spend our on it already. Get the context, you'll see that this not the issue.

[so_real]

Jewish culture is part of American culture, and we are not going away.

I, and I'm sure the majority of Christians out there, don't want you to go away. You are a covenanted people, I have utmost respect for you. I will die and encourage my nation to do the same in order to protect Jews foreign and domestic alike. God sent Jesus to the Jews, and the Jews rejected Him. The Gentiles (the dogs at the master's table) welcomed Him and were offered salvation for it. Were it not for that act of rejection, where would my Gentile salvation stem from? I owe your heritage for my eternal soul, and still God reaches out to you, his most beloved people. You have my gratitude beyond measure, but I will not let those of your heritage talk me into rejecting Jesus, or downplaying Jesus, or avoiding talking about Jesus in public just because that is the Jewish tradition. If you want tolerance for Jews, then offer tolerance for Christians who are greatful to have Jesus as Saviour.

[Bella_Bru]

I don't tend to think of the jews nor the catholics, nor the hindus, nor the buddists, nor the islamicists, nor the raelians, etc. ad nauseum when I make a statement here. I speak from the north american, south eastern, anglo-saxon, baptist Christian point of view. Mine own and none other. It's between me and GOD and no one else matters.

Ummm..Catholics ARE Christians.

[Rasputin_TheMadMonk]

Well TopQuark, excuse the hell out of me.

I didn't intend it as a demand, more a forceful request? If you took it that way, too bad.

So in closing :-P~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Rasputin_TheMadMonk]

One last time,

The Catholics have a different viewpoint from mine own and I don't consider it in my posts. So please get off your soapbox.

[F16Fighter]

"Ummm..Catholics ARE Christians."

Ummm...Think by pinging Sinky you can stir the sh*t some more? LOL!

[so_real]

Mm. Let's see. Not everyone who lives in Israel is Jewish. Does that mean they are no longer to be considered a Jewish nation?

That made me smile. A very good point. I'll use that the next time someone tries to correct me about our nation.

[Bella_Bru]

No, but I know that sinkspur is Catholic.

[ET(end tyranny)]

C'mon Bella_Bru! Think before you type! JESUS is the One who *GAVE* us the Lord's Prayer when His disciples asked how they should pray to GOD. Can you understand now how idiotic your statement is?

You're not being fair to Bella_Bru. Someone posted that Christians pray ONLY to Jesus. What I think Bells was saying is that the Lord's Prayer is directed to God, not Jesus.

Now, having said that.. you said that Jesus gave the disciples the Lord's Prayer when they asked how they should pray to God. And the Lord's Prayer clearly is directed TO God. Not Jesus. So, Jesus says to pray TO GOD!

So how can it be that Christians are supposed to pray ONLT to Jesus????

[F16Fighter]

Yeah, right.

[Bella_Bru]

Well, if you are one of those folks that thinks it is ok to tell Catholics they are not Christians, then the Catholics around here should know.

Don't tell me you have never pinged anyone to a thread before.

[F16Fighter]

I know where you're coming from, Bella -- just like you know where I'm coming from.

[ET(end tyranny)]

You are a real Rasputin. (No, it's not a compliment).

LOL Rasputin was a pervert!

[LaineyDee]

Gets your dander up, doesn't it? *chuckle*