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HOPE FOR AMERICA: Growing Non-Union Teacher Associations Provide Alternatives to NEA and AFT
3/30/03
Posted on 03/30/2003 3:04:42 PM PST by Visioneer
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There is reason to be encouraged. I should know...because I am a teacher.
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posted on
03/30/2003 3:04:42 PM PST
by
Visioneer
To: Visioneer
No Indiana? What can I do then?
To: Visioneer
Please add my organization, Texas Classroom Teacher's Association,
http://www.tcta.org to the list for Texas organizations.
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posted on
03/30/2003 3:17:56 PM PST
by
Clara Lou
(... Democrats, united as ever in opportunism and error.)
To: Visioneer
Thanks for this post, I am passing it along to my wife. She is a teacher here in PA.
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posted on
03/30/2003 3:30:37 PM PST
by
dis.kevin
To: metacognative
Contact CEAFU -- Concerned Educators Against Forced Unionism
8001 Braddock Road, Suite 500 Springfield, VA 22160 800-336-3600, Fax: 703-321-7342
Someone there may be able to assit you with contacts or know of independent teacher organizations within Indiana.
Independent teacher associations are most common in "Right-to-Work" states. In many non-Right-to-Work states, teachers are literally forced to join one of the teacher unions as a pre-condition to employment. Still, even in those states, there are sometimes "pockets" of teachers in local districts or regions who form alternative groups. I suspect there may be something somewhere in Indiana you could latch on to. Otherwise, a core of dedicated teachers can always establish a new organization anytime they wish.
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posted on
03/30/2003 3:36:40 PM PST
by
Visioneer
To: Visioneer
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posted on
03/30/2003 3:36:47 PM PST
by
BlueOneGolf
(3rd Infantry Division: "Rock of the Marne!")
To: Visioneer
BTTT
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posted on
03/30/2003 3:46:53 PM PST
by
EdReform
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To: Visioneer
I still prefer open school choice. That way, I choose what I feel is best for my kids.
These teachers may not be union, but they're still working for government schools.
It would be nice to chose non-government controled schools instead.
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posted on
03/30/2003 3:48:28 PM PST
by
concerned about politics
(Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
To: Visioneer
BTTT
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posted on
03/30/2003 3:55:15 PM PST
by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: concerned about politics
So, if they just all up and quit their jobs, and let their kids starve, you might consider showing them some respect. How sweet. Are you willing to up and quit YOUR job (or have your spouse or loved ones quit THEIRS), just to satisfy some contemptuous stranger, who has already shown an utter lack of regard for people who are putting their time and effort into reforming the public schools?
I didn't think so.
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posted on
03/30/2003 4:00:19 PM PST
by
mrustow
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To: mrustow
, and let their kids starve, Yeh. Right. Gimmie a break.
They could work for private schools if they were really out to change the system.
Public schools ARE government schools. They're "aiding the ememy" for crying out loud!
They still teach socialism. It's their job.
To: metacognative; *Education News
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03/30/2003 4:12:14 PM PST
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EdReform
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To: Teacher317
Ping
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posted on
03/30/2003 4:14:21 PM PST
by
EdReform
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To: concerned about politics
As a former "government" school teacher, I want to politely point out that you are severely mistaken in some of your assumptions.
Based on what you seem to believe, I can assure you that many public school teachers both live and teach information and values I will define as "conservative".
Many still control what is taught in their classrooms and how it is taught and these are going to be the salvation of this mess we are in...IF that time ever comes.
Many of the students I taught in public schools were absolutely outstanding young people who, for a variety of reasons, did not have the luxury of private school attendance. In other words, they were "stuck" with whatever teachers they happened to get. Some ended up with me. I pray to God I did right by them. One thing for sure, I knew my students got a daily dose of outstanding teaching from a conservative America-loving teacher....
Yes, we could just give up and run away rather than try and sight for what is right. Tell me, is this how you would recommend we deal with Sadaam in Iraq... by just walking away because the challenge is great?
Many of us stay in public schools specifically because we want to be there for those students who have no option but public school attendance. At least, in my classes, they learned the need for ethics and good values, appreciation for the American Heritage and for our wonderful way of life, the necessity for accepting responsibility for their decisions, along with in-depth understanding of the academic lessons and materials I presented.
Contrary to your suggestion, our decision to fight rather than take flight represents our last best hope that things will, one day, turn around if we do not walk away from our sacred calling because of cowardice or lack of commitment.
Public Education, if it is to be altered, must, inevitably, be reformed (redeemed) from the inside--not the outside.
In other words, "If it is to be, it IS up to me."
Hope this makes sense....
To: Visioneer
Government school teachers will teach what they're told to teach.
Just because a few join an outside organization , it doesn't mean they're not still teaching socialism, living off the public dole, and collecting their government welfarwe checks.
They demand respect for the little they do. They work an average of 6 mo. per year, and rarely work a full 8 hours. Yet, the American taxpayers are paying these people to teach anything but academics, at an outragious cost.
What other job is there in America where one gets 6 mo. vacation, works less than a full day, cannot be fired, and still get a tax paid full years govenment check? Is this a waste, or what?
Vote school choice canidates. It would greatly reduce the cost to taxpayers, give the children an academic- based education, and allow the parents to choose the school they feel is the best for their children. It's a win/win approach.
To: mrustow
you might consider showing them some respect. The U.S. school system was modeled after German schools created in the 1800's for the express purpose of producing obedient soldiers and factory workers (This is true! I've read it in many different good sources). The German system was extremely successful in achieving its goal in Germany and was therefore copied by other countries, including the U.S. The great American tycoons are big supporters of the German system in America since they want illiterate but obedient factory workers. Our schools are operated pretty much the same way today.
Obviously the brightest and most creative kids are going to have the biggest problem dealing with this restrictive environment.
I've had many people tell me they give their child Ritalin "only when they're in school" to prevent behavioral problems. It would seem in those cases that the school is the real problem.
Why do parents settle for this? I suspect one reason is that they don't know there are alternatives. Good alternatives, often inexpensive or even free.
To: mrustow
PS....
Obedient factory workers also help the NEA get out the socialist vote. A big plus for their political agenda.
To: Visioneer
In our local school district, the NEA has lost it's grip as of this year. The non-aligned and the AzPE membership is 66%.
The NEA had a cow and refused to participae at all in any negotiations.
The big deal was liability insurance. The NEA always used it as a recruiting tool. The AzPE and independent insurers came up with a better plan.
BTW the AzPE is by charter, apolitical.
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posted on
03/30/2003 6:04:08 PM PST
by
pfflier
To: Visioneer
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din! I wouldn't have been so polite.
As someone who spent six-and-and-a-half years teaching remedial and allegedly college-level courses in two-and-four year colleges in New York and New Jersey, I salute you, for trying to make a difference as a teacher, and through seeking to reform the schools.
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posted on
03/30/2003 10:48:43 PM PST
by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: mrustow
Government indoctrination centers are still government indoctrination centers.
Those who work there are still government workers. Both entirely supported by massive U.S. tax dollars.
All collect their government welfare check.
So the workers join a new club. It changes nothing.
The government schools need to be shut down, and replaced with a new free market system. Competetion brings a better product at a lower cost.
Government schools are a failure. It's about time America puts the kids first, and the government brainwashers on the street.
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