The U.S. Gets The Oil by International Law

Congreational Record Page S4507 | 27 March 2003 | Congreational Record

[Suck My AR-16]

OK, allthough I take exception of being called a Communist. I'll assume you do not understand what "occupying power" means or "public property" or "public assets only for the benefit of Iraq and the Iraqi people" or "seizure by U.S. military forces"

What specific "CITIZEN" of Iraq will own the oil ?

Who will give it to him or her and by what authority ?

Rockefellers ? How did they get our "public property" ?

[Viva Le Dissention]

So they only have the "right" to determine their own destiny if they determine it in a way you deem satisfactory?

That's interesting.

[monkeywrench]

What's the alternative? Freeing them for what? The UN coming in to rip them off? The french? More islamakazis? Someone will fill the void, if we do not. I tend to believe we ARE better than the rest.

[Viva Le Dissention]

You know, I've been thinking. Why don't we apply these same policies to domestic issues? I mean, really, we have the same concerns, right? People not being "responsible" enough to choose their own destiny?

What we ought to do is have a Government department--we'll call it the Department of Homeland Compassion and Equity--and it this Department will engage in extensive research and then present to Congress a report, the contents of which will report the absolute best way for every American to spend his money.

Then, once the report is adopted by Congress, businesses will quit paying salaries, but instead each worker will receive vouchers for different items--those items deemed to be the best comsumption for his worth. Then, he can go to stores and redeem his vouchers for the best possible products. This way, we won't have to worry about people not spending their money well, and everyone will receive optimum consumption.

Obviously we'll need to hammer out the details, but I'm excited.

[Viva Le Dissention]

Freeing them for what?

It's irrelevant. It's for them to decide, not us.

[Cold Heat]

The way it works YOU TOAD! Is the assets are leased to development companies via a bid process. We will administer this in as fair a way as possible. The $ for the leases go into the Iraq govt. coffers.(which we will also establish with international approval and help)

This process will gradually revert to total Iraqi control as the government takes shape and we get our asses out of there!

[monkeywrench]

So, Sadam was just being "irresponsible"? A congress could have controlled him?

[monkeywrench]

It's not irrelevant! This world isn't big enough for suicide bombers and freedom!

[Viva Le Dissention]

We're talking about the Iraqi people. If the mission is to overthrow Saddam, then once we have done so, he no longer relevant to the rebuilding discussion.

[Viva Le Dissention]

See Post 24.

Would you like to apply to be Commissioner of the Deparment of Compassion and Equity? I think you would just do a super job. It's so great how you can decide for everyone what is best for them. Geez! The responsbility and stress you must face, to decide the fate and lives of men all around the globe!

I admire that about you.

[monkeywrench]

The iraqi people seem to be decision impaired. They've lived under tyranny for so long. We cannot afford to have to fight this same war every 10 years.

We free them, then teach them freedom retention skills. The un and other freedom destroyers would love for us to leave them room to move in. We cannot.

[monkeywrench]

Hey, moron, I'm deciding what's best for me and mine! And our future. No more tyrants! Get over it.

[Hootch]

That is EXACTLY the idea. Make sure that people know that it is their responsibility to run their country in a manner that it does not run amok on the world stage. THe countries that don't do this will have actions taken against them and when appropriate they will be given a bill for that action.

[Delta 21]

We could pay for the war, handsomely reimburse every family of a coalition casualty, reduce the price of super unleqaded to 25 c ents a gallon for the next 25 years , and Iraq will still have enough oil to become one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

[mrsmith]

Yes: Loser pays!

Obviously this will drive our ACLU commie lawyers berserk.
Constitution-hating lawyers will instead be demanding a 30% contingency to sue Iraq for our costs.
(Hey, that's $20 billion- can't blame them for trying LOL!)

[RightWhale]

That can only be done by the Government which is not supposed to own it!

True enough for the original 13 colonies. Doesn't apply to any of the land acquired by the United States afterwards. All that is property of the United States not any individual private citizen.

[ApesForEvolution]

Me either. I'm sure when all is said and done, the Iraqi people will give us a gratuity added in.

[Suck My AR-16]

I see, "reep". The money goes to the GOVERNMENT not the people. That must mean that you assume the internationally created govenment will be a beneficial, loving enity.

The flow of that money benefit will reach the people via social programs. Yet there is no guarantee of how much they will get or if the leases will be given away at bargan basement prices.

I would like to see OUR oil benefit the people of the USA. I don't think 1/10th of 1 percent of the profits for an oil lease benefits OUR people.

[Viva Le Dissention]

And like I said, you are SO good at deciding the future of other people!

I'm telling you, we need some sort of job for you, like Supreme Decider of Good and Right.

I'd vote for you--but wait a minute, how would I know who to vote for? Uh-oh--we have a problem here. We can't have elections, because that implies that people are rational enough to decide their own fate, so we need a different sort of government... Hmm, perhaps, yes--we need a Dictator. Supreme Dictator of Good and Right--then, you won't be accountable to the arbitrary whims of the voting public, since they don't know what's best for them, anyway!

I've got it--we can annex Iraq, and then make it like Puerto Rico! Run by the United States, but nothing messy like representation in Congress or anything like that. And we can install a Supreme Dictator to tell the people how to act and behave. Man, am I glad we had this discussion, because we've just solved the whole Iraqi mess!