MidAmerican plans world's largest wind farm in Iowa

Quad City Times ^ | March 25, 2003 | Kathie Obradovich

[biblewonk]

Not surprising because I have numbers and physics and you do not.

Too bad you don't know the difference between physics and piss.

[Ditto]

Too bad you don't know the difference between physics and piss.

Do you always resort to vulgarities when you have no facts to back you up? Not very Christian of you, I'd say.

[biblewonk]

Do you always resort to vulgarities when you have no facts to back you up? Not very Christian of you, I'd say.

1sam:25:22 if I leave of all that pertain to him by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall.

I'm not interested in a pissing match with you either.

[biblewonk]

So I wonder when they will start building them. I see it depends on the PTC which may be extended another 2 years according to my windmill magazine. I was also trying to find what percent of Iowa's electricity will come from wind.

[newgeezer]

So I wonder when they will start building them. I see it depends on the PTC which may be extended another 2 years according to my windmill magazine.

Looks like the ball is in the Iowa Utilities Board's court, if the plan is contingent upon MidAmerican's getting the rate freeze to 2010. (Sounds like rates would be going down without the freeze.)

[biblewonk]

I was just reading in Windpower Monthly about the 3 Twhr of windpower put onto the grid in a county in Germany. That's so much power that the coal fired plants have to throttle back, which they absolutely hate. For one thing they run less efficiently so they are using gas powered plants to handle the fluxuations caused by wind power.

Sure the coal powered plant operators and owners hate this and the grid managers don't like it because they have to work more and the coal miners don't like it and the railroad that handles the coal doesn't like it, but the people are willing to pay a little more for renewable power. So it's simple capitalism, the people don't want the dirtiest cheapest product in their house, just like buying cars and TV's and motorcycles. If you are the maker of the dirty cheap stuff then you need to come up with a new plan, like Shell.

[newgeezer]

the people are willing to pay a little more for renewable power.

Are people in the US willing to pay a little more for renewable power? How would the utilities know? The electric utility in my town has this program available where we can sign up to contribute a monthly amount toward renewable energy. I don't know how successful it's been but, I know one guy who's really big on windpower who hasn't signed up for that program. In fact, I'd be surprised if he's so much as written a letter (to the editor of the local newspaper would be even better).

So it's simple capitalism, the people don't want the dirtiest cheapest product in their house, just like buying cars and TV's and motorcycles.

Hah! Yeah, "the people" are really concerned about air quality. That's why the people are loathe to buy SUVs. </sarcasm> ;-)

[biblewonk]

Hah! Yeah, "the people" are really concerned about air quality. That's why the people are loathe to buy SUVs

Some people are. Some conservatives actually conserve and bike to work. It's when people are given a choice as to dirty vs clean electrons coming to their house, via who gets paid, that nukes and others are in big trouble. My hat is off to anyone that will vote with their wallet for renewable energy. I'd do it in a heartbeat if I could actually see a windmill without driving 90 miles.