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UN WANTS POPULATION CONTROL IN ETHIOPIA and ATTEMPTS TO SKIRT PROCEDURES TO RATIFY FEMINIST DOCUMENT
Africa.com, NY Times, LifeSite ^
| 03.25.03
Posted on 03/24/2003 10:19:49 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Jhoffa_
As even the dimmest of bulbs can plant food and watch it grow. How hard can that be?
Africans work VERY HARD at destroying their own food supply. Case in point: Zimbabwe. Can't have any more large commercial farms, that's RACISM (white colonialism, ya know).
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posted on
03/28/2003 2:49:12 AM PST
by
Alouette
To: Coleus
Whole lot o' linkin' goin' on!
This thread is a keeper. Thanks.
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posted on
03/28/2003 2:53:05 AM PST
by
metesky
(My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
To: metesky
Any Time, spread the word.
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posted on
03/28/2003 8:54:04 AM PST
by
Coleus
(RU-486 Kills Babies)
To: Lorianne
Men too can choose not to procreate. It takes two. Women cannot become pregnante by parthenogensis. I don't see the UN suggesting population control by having men take responsibility for stopping unwanted pregnancies. That women are targeted to be the responsibility bearers for population control says a lot about just how equal we are to men worldwide, IMO.
I think that an awful lot of the unwanted pregnancies in 'civilized countries' are because a woman chose to sleep with a man who wouldn't or didn't think to take the responsibility to prevent unwanted procreation, and she didn't either. Maybe she let emotions or homones rule her brain because IF she gets pregnant, she can always get an abortion.
Setting all moral issues aside, elective abortion is NOT an effective population control measure.
I don't want to set morals aside. I believe that life begins at conception.
While the availability of abortion has let millions of women off the responsibility hook, how many men have been let off that same hook without having to be the one to kill their unborn child?
And, again IMO, I believe the UN is practicing genocide with its population control agenda.
To: GovernmentShrinker
You're right. Women in Ethiopia don't have the same access to birth control that women in 'civilized countries' do. And, yes, it's truly horrible that many women are oppressed & abused in many countries.
"...it's cruel slap in the faces of abused and oppressed women to claim that they had a choice as to whether or not they got pregnant in the first place."
Do you think these oppressive & abusive men in third world countries will allow their women to terminate the life of their unborn children? Do you think these oppressed and abused women in third world countries will seek abortions if available? Do women in Ethiopia even want abortions readily available? Would they really head on down to the local abortuary for a woman's reproductive health abortion then head on home to the men that have and will continue to oppress & abuse them?
I think it's a cruel slap in the face to allow women to be oppressed and abused and then expect them to have an abortion to cut down on the number of hungry mouths to feed.
This whole [hidden] UN agenda of allowing (permitting? encouraging? requiring?) abortion to control the populations of third world countries makes no sense to me. Except as genocide.
To: MIsunshine
Promotion of voluntary abortion for the purposes of population control may be genocide, immoral, etc... (I believe they are). But that is entirely beside MY point.
Promotion of voluntary abortion for the purpose of poplulation control simply does not make logistical, practical sense. I simply cannot work, on a voluntary basis. The ONLY way abortion can be an effective tool for population control is if it is NOT VOLUNTARY.
It is my suspicion that mandatory abortion is the ultimate trajectory of the promotion of voluntary abortion. This was forseen by many (most) of the early feminists who argued against abortion on that premise. I believe they will turn out to be right.
If one argues that voluntary abortion is immoral, it follows that mandatory abortion is even more immoral.
Focussing on women exclusively in procreation discussions particularly in laying blame (as most men are wont to do IME) is simply a quicker track toward mandatory abortions performed on women, mandatory sterilization of women, mandatory contraceptive use by women (see China). Quite naturally, these policies are popular with many men, because they don't involve any loss of bodily autonomy, nor violation of human rights for men. It is more easy to justify actions which don't place one in personal jeapardy, as many examples in history have shown us.
Focussing exclusively on women in issues of procreation (as many INSIST on doing) sets the stage for justification of human rights abuses against women and only women in the name of some perceived common good (see China) like population control.
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04/01/2003 11:07:06 AM PST
by
Lorianne
To: Lorianne
Thanks for your thoughtful and insightful response. I did originally miss your point.
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