UN WANTS POPULATION CONTROL IN ETHIOPIA and ATTEMPTS TO SKIRT PROCEDURES TO RATIFY FEMINIST DOCUMENT

Africa.com, NY Times, LifeSite ^ | 03.25.03

[Notwithstanding]

Sending story to my environmental law professor.
We discuss this issue often at Ave Maria Law.

[GovernmentShrinker]

What no one allows for is the fact that if a woman doesn't want children, she can choose not to get pregnant in the first place

Not in places like Ethiopia.

[Darksheare]

"depopulation in Ethiopia."
They're doing a fine job by themselves at the moment...

The UN makes me sick, and remember what happened in Rawanda?
Kofi Anon at first denied anything happend there, obstructed any chance of an honest investigatiopn, and then on PBS in an interview said it was 'sad' what happened there.
This from the same guy who said he loved the smell of burning oil filled tires around the necks of his enemies.

Next they'll try this crap out on US, if they succeed in pushing it through.

[Coleus]

Yea, where was Clinton, the first "so-called" Black President when "his" people in Africa were being mutilated for all those years?

[Darksheare]

He was with Lewinsky and a cigar..
Or being bought by China..
Or trying to dodge another lamp tossed at him by Hillary!

[MIsunshine]

Me: What no one allows for is the fact that if a woman doesn't want children, she can choose not to get pregnant in the first place.

You: Not in places like Ethiopia

So abortion's okay for population control? Okay, but only in third world countries?

I'm not putting words in your mouth, I don't understand the point of your comment to me.

BTW, Planned Parenthood is international. Why can't we get the focus on worldwide 'reproductive health' to be on preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place?

[GovernmentShrinker]

My point was to refute the comment you made. It's a concept that pretty much holds true in developed, civilized countries, but not in the third world. We should make a high priority of changing that, but in the meantime, it's cruel slap in the faces of abused and oppressed women to claim that they had a choice as to whether or not they got pregnant in the first place. In many of these countries, husbands murder their wives (often just adolescents) with impunity if they don't comply in every way with the husbands' demands. Ending abortion shouldn't be a higher priority than ending that state of affairs.

[Zoey]

Did the US sign and ratify the CEDAW treaty?

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[Coleus]

No, but they are working on it.

http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/07/cedawvote.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/696748/posts
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/CEDAW
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/695195/posts
http://search.cwfa.org/find.html?id=4208944&pid=r&mode=ALL&query=cedaw&t=s

[donmeaker]

I suppose that it is not all that important, but the ladies in ethiopia tend to be tall, thin, intelligent, fluent in several languages, and to my eyes, strikingly beautiful. The only nation that can compare is just down the street, in Eritrea.

Ethiopia mostly practices a brand of Christianity called Coptic. It is my belief that once they were a major christian center, but accepted some writings not believed canonical, for example, the gospel of Peter. Coptic Christianity was rigidly supressed by the Orthodox under the Eastern (Byzantine) Roman Empire, to the extent that many Coptic Christians looked at the relative freedom granted by the early Muslim Caliphs as liberating.

Ethiopia is also (by several accounts) where the Arc of the Covanent rests. Many Ethiopian women have names that echo Jewish place names. Ierusalem, Betelhem ectera.

If I was going to begin a eugenics program, I would not try to limit growth of a population of tall beautiful women, unless I was trying to breed dog ugly people.

[Coleus]

I have some Papal Encyclical information on post 9 regarding how the Church is against Socialism.

[al_c]

Wow! That's really eye-opening stuff. I'll bookmark it for future reference.

[Teacher317]

FR and FReepers have helped me learn many things. I never knew that, thanks to Oklahoma State University, Ethiopia was a net food exporter for almost a decade (mid 50's to 60's)... and then the Marxists took power, and they've been starving to death by the millions ever since (and relying on American generosity just to survive). How about, instead of killing more people and centrally-planning their (very sparse) population density, getting rid of their Marxist rulership, and getting back to what actually feeds people? I guess that's too tough a call for the thrill-kill cult in the UN. They'll accept any amount of death, so long as those who are in power get to stay in power. Blood for oil bother you? Try rivers of blood for political posts!

[shhrubbery!]

In U.N. feminist parlance violence against women includes refusal to allow abortion which is called 'forced pregnancy'.

Good Lord, that is Orwellian.

[Teacher317]

Ooh... according to HRW World Atlas online (http://go.hrw.com/atlas/norm_htm/ethiopia.htm), Ethiopia has 65 million people now (an is the size of Texas), but is predicted to have 187 million by 2050 (while most of Europe is supposed to have fewer people by 2050). Wow.

[Coleus]

You can fit the entire world's population in an area the size of Texas.

[Coleus]

Oh? And what exactly are you trying to convey?

[Lorianne]

Men too can choose not to procreate. It takes two. Women cannot become pregnante by parthenogensis.

Setting all moral issues aside, elective abortion is NOT an effective population control measure.

[Lorianne]

Men too can choose not to procreate. It takes two. Women cannot become pregnante by parthenogensis.

Setting all moral issues aside, elective abortion is NOT an effective population control measure.