THE POLITICS OF PIGMENTATION. WARD CONNERLY LIVE ON THE BANANA REPUBLICAN RADIO HOUR TONIGHT!

Radio FreeRepublic and the Free Republic Network ^ | March 6, 2003 | Luis Gonzalez

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[herewego]

hey and BUMP!!

[summer]

I've never really understood why Jeb would rebuff him.

Hello Gene,

Based on what I remember reading in the newspapers when they bothered to take the time to report what Gov Bush was saying then, I think what Gov Bush did was not so much a rebuff against Ward. Gov Bush's actions concerned the issue more than Ward.

The issue as seen by Gov Bush was this one: Should Ward's very divisive ballot issue actually go on the ballot here -- in this highly diverse state -- potentially causing great division among people?

I think Gov Bush's answer was: No. There has to be another way.

So, thinking out of the box here, Gov Bush did what real leaders do: he made a decision.

And, he issued an Executive Order, AND took the heat for his decision -- for a VERY long time, I might add.

In short - an A+ to Gov Bush for having enough guts and brains to do what many others can not do: Lead.

[summer]

PS :)

[Right Wing Professor]

I had the privilege of sitting next to Mr. Connerly at a dinner about five years ago. He's one of the most principled and most far-seeing Conservative leaders I've spoken to. He's approached the campaign against race preferences with patience and persistence; he's receivied rebuffs and resistance from his supposed 'friends' in the Republican party with far more endurance than I could muster. He's clearly one of the towering figures of conservatism in our time.

[Right Wing Professor]

So a retreat from a principled position is leadership, is it?

Do you work for Jeb?

[Seeking the truth]

Divisive? That's comical & silly. Divisive? to whom? Liberals?

The exact same referendum passed in Washington, a very liberal state with 58% of the vote.

The exact same referendum passed in California, another very liberal state with 62% of the vote.

Internal polls in Florida, a more conservative state than either Washington or California, showed a 70% preference for Connerly's initiative.

It is rather revealing that you use the word "divisive" as this is the same, exact word that Jeb used when he rebuffed Connerly.

I daresay that Connerly's referendum would probably be a 90% issue on FreeRepublic, which begs the question why you are against it as well as why Jeb was against it.

It is bascially a litmus test for conservatives and those who oppose the language/intent of Connerly's initiative pretty much reveal themselves as something other than conservative.

Lastly, conservatives are not too happy with Executive Orders being used instead of legislature or referendum by the people.

Of all the rediculous ballot referenda - bullet trains to nowhere, 16 per classroom as part of state constitution, pigs! - in Florida lately, it is unconscienable to me that a serious issue as presented by Mr. Connerly was sabotagued by Jeb Bush & his supporters.

The people of Florida should have had their chance to vote on this.

Jeb did not lead - he dictated - and took away the chance for the people's voice to be heard.

Those are the facts.

[summer]

Those are the facts.

As you see them, Gene. I told you the facts I see.

And as for this comment:

It is rather revealing that you use the word "divisive" as this is the same, exact word that Jeb used when he rebuffed Connerly.

"Revealing?" Let's consider what was actually REVEALED:

Gov Bush spoke that word and it was published in the newspaper.

I read that word he spoke quoted by him in the newspaper. As did many other people. As you pointed out, it was a word used at that time during this matter.

I don't know what you think you revealed here. But, no matter. You have a great day, Seeking the Truth! Well, what's left of it anyway. I have been sick all day, so I will take my leave from here, but I wish you well. :)

[summer]

Those are the facts.

As you see them, Gene. I told you the facts I see.

And as for this comment:

It is rather revealing that you use the word "divisive" as this is the same, exact word that Jeb used when he rebuffed Connerly.

"Revealing?" Let's consider what was actually REVEALED:

Gov Bush spoke that word and it was published in the newspaper.

I read that word he spoke quoted by him in the newspaper. As did many other people. As you pointed out, it was a word used at that time during this matter.

I don't know what you think you revealed here. But, no matter. You have a great day, Seeking the Truth! Well, what's left of it anyway. I have been sick all day, so I will take my leave from here, but I wish you well. :)

[summer]

Those are the facts.

As you see them, Gene. I told you the facts I see.

And as for this comment:

It is rather revealing that you use the word "divisive" as this is the same, exact word that Jeb used when he rebuffed Connerly.

"Revealing?" Let's consider what was actually REVEALED:

Gov Bush spoke that word and it was published in the newspaper.

I read that word he spoke -- quoted in the newspaper. (As did many other people.) And, as you pointed out, it was a word used at that time, during this matter.

I don't know what you think you revealed here. But, no matter. You have a great day, Seeking the Truth! Well, what's left of it anyway. I have been sick all day, so I will take my leave from here, but I wish you well. :)

[Seeking the truth]

I don't know what you think you revealed here.

I didn't. You did it yourself.

Hope you're feeling better.

[Seeking the truth]

I don't know what you think you revealed here.

I didn't. You did it yourself.

Hope you're feeling better.

[Seeking the truth]

I don't know what you think you revealed here.

I didn't. You did it yourself.

Hope you're feeling better.

[summer]

Thanks, Gene.

[summer]

PS :)

[herewego]

great show! thanks

[summer]

OK; Gene, I wasn't planning to return to this thread, and I didn't reread our conversation there, but, I realize now what happened (and, you're right - sometimes it takes me awhile).

You recall the word "divisive" and you thought: 90% of FL is conservative -- so, "divisive" is inaccurate and a crock of sh*t. Something like that. Right?

But, I recall reading the word "divisive" and I thought: about 40% could vote Dem/40% could vote GOP/and 20% are independents (like me) and you never know what the h*ll they'll do in the voting booth in FL -- so "divisive" is right on the money.

Now what you were seeking is revealed.

PS Good night! :)

[Seeking the truth]

Wrong.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Great show?

Guest no show.

Thanks for the support.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Crap!

There was more action in the thread than on my show!