The Gun Protest Ban Against Dr. Edward Hudson

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[Sir Gawain]

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[Shooter 2.5]

In the U.S., there are the same type of heroes who are behind bars for exact same reason.

I don't want us to bring a Second Amendment before the U.S. Supreme Court until we get at least one more Conservative on the Court but I'm afraid there are at least four cases headed that way.

[Lurker]

We might as well get things out in the open.

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[Shooter 2.5]

Why can't you wait until there is at least one more conservative on the bench?


Are you able to wait decades in case we lose?

[Victoria Delsoul]

The gun control "law" (so-called) is immoral and contrary to Canadian traditions. It forces any individual who only wants to keep a hunting gun at home to apply for a personal licence every five years, and tell the police about his depressions and his love life. It forces ten percent of the Canadian adult population (i.e., registered gun owners) to notify the police when they change addresses. It grants the police arbitrary powers to seize guns, and to deny or revoke licences. In certain circumstances, it allows searches (re-christened "inspections") without warrants. It also forces the registration of all individual firearms, and prepares the sort of confiscation that the British and the Australians have recently suffered (like, before them, subjects of all totalitarian countries). It is one of the last nails in the coffin of the right of individuals to defend their lives if the police cannot (or will not) intervene. It discriminates against honest citizens in favour of criminals.

Sometimes I feel that we are getting close to this, and it's just a matter of time.

[Jack Black]

Criminal Code section against carrying weapons (the gun part!) while "attending or [being] on the way to attend a public meeting

I don't get it. How can they go to militia practice? :-)

[Travis McGee]

Why now? Because I believe in the God-given Bill of Rights, and not the "Rule of Five".

Five black robes can say that the moon is made of green cheese, or I have no right to own a gun, and it will not make either true.

But it will bring into the clear light of day who the traitors and domestic enemies of the constitution are.

If they want to settle the matter unde Rule 308, that will be for them to decide.

[TigersEye]

I've waited long enough. I want to know what it's going to be. Liberty or death?

[Mulder]

Are you able to wait decades in case we lose?

If they go on record officially declaring that we don't have the "Right to keep and bear arms", we won't have to wait decades to see the repurcussions.

Furthermore, there is no guarantee that Bush is going to put a Scalia or Thomas on the court. With the exception of Reagan, Republicans have put more statists than constructionists on the court.

[Mulder]

The Patriot should be given US citizenship. We could use a few more heroes like the gentleman mentioned in the story.

[Mulder]

Five black robes can say that the moon is made of green cheese, or I have no right to own a gun, and it will not make either true.

Should the Supreme Court rule against the 2nd amendment, their ruling will have no more legitimatacy than the "laws" requiring Rosa Parks to sit in the back of the bus.

There is no legal (under the Constitution) nor moral requirement to obey illegitimate court rulings.

Such a ruling would only make "official" what the unofficial policy from DC has been for decades: that we have no Rights, only privlidges granted by the state. And since the primary purpose of the federal government is to "secure our Rights" (per the Declaration of Independence), such a ruling would bring the legitimacy of the entire government into question. As such, other parts of the Declaration may be invoked by "We the People".

If they want to settle the matter unde Rule 308, that will be for them to decide.

There are more than a few Americans who are well-acquainted with this rule and not afraid to invoke it if their Rights come under assault.

[Shooter 2.5]

No, we haven't waited long enough. We have a chance to put at least one more conservative on the bench. I realize that the next Justice to retire may be a conservative where we may have to wait for one more vacancy but we don't risk anything by waiting.

Waiting is the smart thing to do because all this cyber-talk of rule 308 is childish nonsense. If the gunowners weren't so lazy, we wouldn't have gun control. They would be actively working for Second Amendment candidates. There are too many gunowners who think they did their duty by voting one every couple of years. Where were they when the candidates were being picked to run?

It also doesn't take Civil War II to see which politicians and judges are against the Bill of Rights. Work to get them out of office.

[Sloth]

Good article. Never saw the Orwell quote before -- that's a keeper.

[Travis McGee]

If they go on record officially declaring that we don't have the "Right to keep and bear arms", we won't have to wait decades to see the repurcussions.

In another two generations, there may be nobody left who remembers freedom.

The Soviet Union also had a lovely constitution, but everybody understood that if you actually tried to apply it you would go to the Gulag.

[wcbtinman]

"If the gunowners weren't so lazy, we wouldn't have gun control."

Your right. Gunowners should have started shooting the govt bastards right around 1934...and we wouldn't have gun control.

[teeman8r]

it is important to get all the cards on the table as soon as possible regarding the second amendment... bring on the cases... if the 2nd wins favor, the sooner the better... and the liberals will fall all over themselves to decry an overthrow of the SCotUS then they will see the folly in their 7 day waiting period... if the 2nd amendment loses, i personally feel that a God given right cannot lose, then the tree of liberty is thirsty...

jmt teeman

[Shooter 2.5]

" then the tree of liberty is thirsty...

Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Tell you what. Work for a gun group or a candidate in the next election for one week.

We already have threads on this website from gunowners who complain they get a letter in the mail asking for money. They're too lazy to get off the couch to throw the letter away without complaining.

[TigersEye]

If it were only about the 2nd Ammendment I would agree with you.

[TigersEye]

Alexis de Tocqueville forecasted a more subtle, quiet, democratic tyranny.

"The supreme power covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform … men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power … compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd."

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