Pot Case Jurors Call For New Trial

Sacramento Bee ^ | Feb. 5, 2003 | Claire Cooper

[Dan(9698)]

>>>...Jurors have an undisputable right to judge both the Law and the facts.

To allow any evidence of the conspiracy between the city and the defendant would be improper because conspiracy was not charged, and so was not part of the trial.

I gather from the article, the 9th Circuit agreed with that.

The 9th circuit is the most liberal of all. If they upheld the judge he must be right.

[Dane]

AND PEOPLE LIKE DANE WHO APPROVE IT ALL

Approve what, dare I say. If you have a problem with the federal law, why don't you call a symapthetic ear, Nancy Pelosi.

I have no doubt that she will be very symapthetic to the "plight" of pot rights advocate, Ed Rosenthal.

JMO, she(Nancy Pelosi) is probably behind the circus over Mr. Rosenthal's "plight".

[PaxMacian]

The supremacy clause should not have had to come into play since the laws banning flowers are unconstitutional.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Preamble: ...secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity...

Amendment V: nor shall (anyone) be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment IX: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the PEOPLE.

Amendment X: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the PEOPLE.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ..."

"Bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression."--Thomas Jefferson

GOD MADE HERB
GOD SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD
GOD GAVE IT TO MAN

Genesis 1:11
Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth"; and it was so.

Genesis 1:12
And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:29
And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.

Nowhere in the Constitution is it enumerated what one may put into ones body. Therefore, that right is reserved for the states or the people. However, since God has already specified in the Bible what one may consume, it is, in fact, the PEOPLE's God given right.

[SteveH]

Yep there is something called state court and federal court.

I am aware of dual jurisdiction.

The point was about the federal judge shoving the defense attorney aside for final questioning of the witness, not about the charges or the verdict.

I have been a juror in a federal trial in the 9th, and this reporting is in agreement with my observations on and interactions with federal judges. They pretty much run the trial and use non-verbal and implicit signals to lead the jury towards a verdict, in my opinion.

[PaxMacian]

You are always calling antiWODies libertarians.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Believing in freedom only makes one an American.

[Dane]

The point was about the federal judge shoving the defense attorney aside for final questioning of the witness, not about the charges or the verdict.

Well gee, the judge running a court room so that defense theatrics didn't turn into a circus is a "crime" now. The real crime was Judge Ito's actions, IMHO. BTW, this is SCOTUS Judge and Clinton appointee Breyer's, brother who presided over this trial, although Federal Judge Breyer delaying the sentence date till June 4th shows his true liberal bias, he at least followed the rules.

I have been a juror in a federal trial in the 9th, and this reporting is in agreement with my observations on and interactions with federal judges. They pretty much run the trial and use non-verbal and implicit signals to lead the jury towards a verdict, in my opinion.

No sh*t, like I said before if you have a problem with the federal laws contact your congresswoman, Nancy Pelosi, and your Senators Feinstein and Boxer.

JMO, but I think that you would find a sympathetic ear to your complaints.

[headsonpikes]

Satan is the ruler of this world.

I read that somewhere.

You could check with Dane-- he's probably got a hot-line to the Big Red Guy.

[JudyB1938]

To try to enlist the aid of people like that woman is the same thing as getting into bed with the devil. No thanks.

[JudyB1938]

I was thinking that, but didn't say it, as I typed my last response to Dane.

[Dane]

To try to enlist the aid of people like that woman(Ms. Pelosi) is the same thing as getting into bed with the devil. No thanks.

And yet Ms. Pelosi is probably on the same side that you are(that poor, pitiful, peaceful pot grower Ed Rosenthal got railroaded).

Looks like you already made your bed, Judy, IMO.

[JudyB1938]

I believe that you are insane.

[Britton J Wingfield]

One bit of missing information -- that Rosenthal had been deputized by Oakland to supply that city's pot program

So why isn't the mayor under indictment as a kingpin? This guy was just a footsoldier in their criminal enterprise.

Cowardly prosecution, imho.

[general_re]

To allow any evidence of the conspiracy between the city and the defendant would be improper because conspiracy was not charged, and so was not part of the trial.

LOL. May I gently point out that the defense sought to introduce the evidence that the defendent's actions were sanctioned by local authorities, as exculpatory evidence in his favor?

[KC_Conspirator]

You are not insane. It never ceases to amaze me how we are about to go to war and pot is the number one issue for some people.

[Mark Bahner]

"And the circus of Ed Rosentahl continues from the fanatic supporters of pot on FR."

It's liberty, Dane. SOME of us on "Free Republic" are fanatics about getting back our stolen liberty.

"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice." Barry Goldwater, conservative, in his 1964 Republican nomination acceptance speech.

P.S. Also, "Individual liberty depends on decentralized government." Barry Goldwater, in his book, "Conscience of a Conservative."

[JudyB1938]

I couldn't care less about pot or any other drug. I even hate PRESCRIPTION drugs.

My Number One Priority is ANY attack on our country, whether foreign or domestic. The WOD is just as dangerous as Iraq.

[cinFLA]

You are not insane. It never ceases to amaze me how we are about to go to war and pot is the number one issue for some people.

War? What war? Please pass the bong .....

[cinFLA]

This guy was just a footsoldier in their criminal enterprise.

More like a general.

[Mark Bahner]

"It never ceases to amaze me how we are about to go to war and pot is the number one issue for some people."

Liberty, in the form of constitutionally limited government, is the #1 issue for SOME people.

P.S. We are NOT "about to go to war." We are about to have a President, once again, violate his oath of office to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution" by waging war without a Congressional declaration of war:

http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2002/pr100402.htm

[Ken H]

And yet Ms. Pelosi is probably on the same side you are.

And the owner of this forum has written against the WOD, so he's probably on the same side as JudyB1938.