Bush Asks for $15 Billion to Fight AIDS in Africa (It's unprecedented and will save lives)

reuters ^ | 1/28/2003 | Maggie Fox

[tpaine]

(Smile, man - you be actin all grumpy and stuff)

;0)
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It's the medium that has you confused me boyo.
Many of our humor impaired freekers misinterpret sarcasum for 'grumpy'. - It's a common trait in the double digit set.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

T, you're barely worth a post, let alone any more effort. But if you want to fantasize about being James Bond and mysterious people stalking you, far be it from me to stand in your way.

It probably keeps you from acting out in other ways and saves the taxpayers from paying for your institutional care.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I don't know how to break it to these nuts, but God's law trumps the Constitution (magnificent as it is). It is our duty to do what we can to attend the suffering of fellow men when they cannot help themselves, whether they live next door or in another country. If we cannot share our blessings, we don't deserve to have them.

[YoungKentuckyConservative]

Americans are informed and educated regarding Aids and it hasn't made ANY difference because people are unwilling to change their lifestyles.

True, at least for homosexuals and sexual deviants. The majority of the "straight" population has it figured out. As far as I'm concerned AIDS follows the Darwinian logic. It will work its way out of the bloodstream by virtue of destroying those who do not practice sex in a safe fashion (protection, monogamy, etc.).

I don't recall EVER seeing a statistic that showed straight men or women at greater risk of contracting AIDS today than they were when the education of America was rolled out to the masses. It seems like all of the BAD reports I hear are for promiscuous and homosexual practitioners. Does anyone have any support one way or the other? I'd be curious to see what someone has on record.

[ArneFufkin]

It is our duty to do what we can to attend the suffering of fellow men when they cannot help themselves, whether they live next door or in another country. If we cannot share our blessings, we don't deserve to have them.

The attack on the African AIDS pandemic is not only a moral and ethical prerogative of God-given humanity, it is a campaign of American national security interest on a multitude of levels. The states of Africa, like all those mired in third world misery and political corruption, need to be viewed as petrie dishes for anti-American terrorist staging going forward. That threat needs to be neutralized by a localized American presence of morally positive and economically fulfilling infulence. There's no more bunker-monkey isolationism post 9-11, but the embittered-populists and LP narcissists here will never understand that reality or undertake that vital responsibility.

[tpaine]

T, you're barely worth a post, let alone any more effort. But if you want to fantasize about being James Bond and mysterious people stalking you, far be it from me to stand in your way.
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Dream on that I have a Bond fantasy, 'paw'.
-- And 'Sharkys' stalking dreams were well documented at the AFholer sites of that time, witnessed by many who still post here.

You are the real 'nut', for contending that "God's law trumps the Constitution" in the matter of foreign aid.
That is just an un-FReeking-believable position.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Very well stated.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

You are the real 'nut', for contending that "God's law trumps the Constitution" in the matter of foreign aid. That is just an un-FReeking-believable position.

With one so clueless as you are, T, there is no point wasting the finger energy to explain. But suffice to say that God's law trumps anything man has ever done or will ever do. Start there before you even attempt to get to Square 2.

[Sparta]

Thanks for the ping. This is priceless for the examples of hypocracy and hilarious postings by you and MattinNJ from that comedian (his name escapes me).

[THUNDER ROAD]

AIDS in Africa is the same diseases they have always had all rolled into one category called AIDS Big scam job to get $$$ especially the drug companies

Amen , Uncle Bob ! I think Chads been Had
on this topic, along with a few others here !

.....THUNDER......

[Mortimer Snavely]

I doubt seriously the poster you cite understands why you find the post interesting.

Bush is, after all, a conservative, and Clinton was a leftist. Right?

[FreedomCalls]

And how much of that $15 BILLION will end up in Robert Mugabe's numbered bank account in Switzerland?

[Kevin Curry]

Good, thoughtful post.

[Mortimer Snavely]

"If we cannot share our blessings, we don't deserve to have them."

This whole AIDS aid thing is a "pearls before swine" situation if there ever was one.

[tpaine]

Believe what you want about your god my boy.
But live in our society under our constitutional principles.

These principles do not include giving our tax money, as 'foreign aid', to the world.
Private charity, of course.

Government has no 'charity funds' to disburse, imo.

[SCalGal]

LETS START TO SAVE SOME LIVES IN OUR COUNTRY, charity begins at home.

I agree.

[tpaine]

You couldn't elaborate on 'WHY' it's a "Good, thoughtful post" if your life depended on it.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I'm not a boy, my God has a capital "G" and I believe in Him above all else.

His mercy and love is boundless and we can be but a poor imitation. Undoubtedly, the concept cannot penetrate your selfishness, but most decent people are humbled by the words, "There, but for the grace of God, go I."

[ArneFufkin]

Very well stated.

Thank you. Bush and his staff are remarkably deft in their initiatives. The AIDS program is a vehicle that is not only righteous morally, but will open an avenue into third world countries that can effectively break the resource-distribution hold that existing corrupt and criminal syndicates and institutions - the UN, World Bank and IMF to name a few - have built since WWII. The Mentoring program of at risk kids bypasses the systems, unions and people that fund and operate the diseased and fraud-ravaged education system corrupted by the American left.

It is far superior to pay $40 billion to fund a DOE appropriation initiative that serves to empower parents, move money and decision making power to States and localities, and direct the design and construction of a more innovative, effective and locally managed K-12 franchise than it is to spend $30 billion to enable a socialist, special interest seized, result-poor and fraud ridden status quo.

The AIDS initiative is a strategic security foray - a diseased ravaged populace can never pursue liberty and economic growth, and can never depose the corrupt leaders who are conspiring to kill America and Americans.

America's huge investment in the Marshall Plan, with it's accompanying pricetag, has kept a relative peace on the European Continent for nearly 60 years - a remarkable historic feat. Our efforts around the world keep AMERICANS safe, provide the security of our commercial activity and international trade, elicited foreign investment in OUR markets and businesses, and provided the platform from which America grew to the political, moral and economic wonder it has.

The myopic and craven world of Pat Buchanan - has never, does not now, and will never - exist. The blessings of America mandates concurrent obligations and responsibilities, and the pursuit of policies and investments that cultivate a milieu of physically secure, politically stable and economically engaged Nation States is indispensible to how we Americans, going forward, will live freely, safely, prosperously and in God's service. There's no other path.