Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Developers Turn to Linux, Stunt Microsoft Growth
Yahoo/Reuters ^ | 1/27/2003 | Siobhan Kennedy

Posted on 01/27/2003 11:41:29 AM PST by B Knotts

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-127 next last
Things are looking even brighter for Linux's future.
1 posted on 01/27/2003 11:41:29 AM PST by B Knotts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: rdb3
*ping*
2 posted on 01/27/2003 11:43:18 AM PST by B Knotts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: B Knotts
so--are you gonna ping the entertainment? :)
3 posted on 01/27/2003 11:44:53 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: B Knotts; Bush2000
Can anyone tell me the odds that Bush2000 will comment on this article?
4 posted on 01/27/2003 11:45:52 AM PST by On the Road to Serfdom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce
Heh. Naw...I'm not that big of a troublemaker...besides, he'll find it himself, I'm quite sure! :-)
5 posted on 01/27/2003 11:45:54 AM PST by B Knotts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: On the Road to Serfdom
Pretty high, since you pinged him.
6 posted on 01/27/2003 11:49:31 AM PST by js1138
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: B Knotts

Mail me if you want on my Linux ping list.
7 posted on 01/27/2003 11:53:15 AM PST by shadowman99
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: B Knotts
Question: if someone wanted to convert their IT career from a Windows/Unix base to Linux, how should they go about it?
8 posted on 01/27/2003 11:55:24 AM PST by Grig
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #9 Removed by Moderator

Comment #10 Removed by Moderator

To: jojomatic
step 2: call your local hippie-geek friend and ask him how to deal with a kernel panic.
11 posted on 01/27/2003 12:07:54 PM PST by rivercat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: B Knotts


12 posted on 01/27/2003 12:08:17 PM PST by OHelix
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Grig; Bush2000
"Question: if someone wanted to convert their IT career from a Windows/Unix base to Linux, how should they go about it?"

First, they should chew off a major appendage. Then when they are thus crippled, ask a group of long term handicapped people to teach them how to get around. When everyone walks effortlessly by you as you try to get simple things accomplished you will begin go understand how it feels to go to linux after using windows.

I am sorry, I love linux, I program for BOTH and make MORE MONEY programming under linux, but Microsoft has tools sets and software that all works together and is easy to use in a way Linux has not even ADMITTED yet, let alone addressed...

Oh, and watch closely how the linux proponents will start to bash me the way liberals mindlessly bash conservatives- they are almost religious in their zeal- and most Linux programmers who work exclusively in that enviroment are the same way.

Because they can 'grep' a file and 'su chgrp' and 'find . *.cpp - print' in a COMMAND LINE they feel oh so superior. Just like the last 4 who got fired at my last contract company when they insisted they need 3 weeks to program an XML parser after I showed management how to cut and past a spreadsheet into an oracle database connected through an access file (in about 10 minutes).

That is what it is like dealing with Linux people... (and liberals)

oh and I am not on Bush2000's payroll (but I would like to be if you work for Microsoft!!! - I am SORRY I turned down that job offer back in '85 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give me another chance!!)

13 posted on 01/27/2003 12:08:40 PM PST by Mr. K (all your TAG LINE are belong to us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: dcam
Hmmm. I haven't seen one of those for 4 or 5 years now.
14 posted on 01/27/2003 12:09:05 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: B Knotts
Michael Robertson, the Lindows CEO battled liberal professors in college. So you do have evidence folks who use Linux are anything but follow the herd nerds... ;-)
15 posted on 01/27/2003 12:11:50 PM PST by goldstategop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Grig
Pretty simple. Download the flavor of your choice and start by running it on a spare machine at work, tied into your LAN. If you can't do that at work, start at home. I've done both actually. Set up a Linux server at home running SAMBA, and I also have a couple of systems at work to play around with as well.

If you're already familiar with UNIX, you shouldn't have any trouble with Linux.

16 posted on 01/27/2003 12:11:57 PM PST by AFreeBird
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: B Knotts
Still wouldn't buy any stock related to Linux.

.. the fact remains that Linux has achieved less of a penetration in e-business to date and to the average consumer is not "user friendly", especially when compared to Microsoft. IT managers must, therefore, cut through the Linux hype and ask the right questions: Can the enterprise and their operating system support their needs with unquestionable security going forward.

If the time is here ,however, for Linux to get a "bigger toe" in the door, then with IT managers given fewer dollars to spend and Linux giving away their Products..some will buy. But real big dollar buying isn't happening. Companies are staying with what they have, for now anyway. My opinion.

17 posted on 01/27/2003 12:12:07 PM PST by fight_truth_decay (Occupied)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. K
Linux...

It's kind of a retro "pop-culture" thing. You know, trendy. Like yoga, sandals, granola, not bathing regularly, wearing one of those stupid little goatees, and attending anti-america rallies. But it's so cool.

I, like you work with both, but I find XP both more user-friendly and stable.

18 posted on 01/27/2003 12:14:13 PM PST by rivercat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: jojomatic
step 1: install linux on your home pc.

Very bad advice - I would never partition my PC. The best way to get started with Linux is to spring for about $50 for a 4-5 yr. old PC that you can muck around with. (Make sure it has a NIC.)

You can either format the hard-drive first or install Linux as a complete overwrite - either way works fine. BTW, on first pass, I wouldn't bother installing X Windows. Since the biggest demand for Linux right now is for server applications, you should get used to using SSH from your PC to log into the Linux box.

Once you've got the server apps loaded, play around and get used to how the Net applications work (ie Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc.) If you have a good Net connection, you can start downloading and installing all sorts of programs to get a feel for how they work.

What you'll find is that even though MS has a great developer interface, you have to do things MS's way. If you want a lot of flexibility, and have customers that need basic server functions, you'll find out pretty darn quick why there's been a huge movement towards Linux.

19 posted on 01/27/2003 12:17:48 PM PST by Snerfling
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: B Knotts
"But, I have to pay more for Microsoft -- so it MUST be better!"

20 posted on 01/27/2003 12:21:44 PM PST by 537 Votes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-127 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson