HILL OF BEANS - Bush's No Action On Affirmative Action

New York Press ^ | January, 2003 - Volume 16, Issue 4 | By Christopher Caldwell

[dirtboy]

Just make sure you don't do anything that enables the Liberals to get into power like what happened in '92.

Yeah, we want to make sure that the gains made by the GOP Congress in the mid 1990s are not lost. No more new entitlements. No more federal education spending. Welfare reform. Balanced budgets. Yep, if the GOP loses in 2004, we'll lose those gains.

Wait a minute, they're gone already. What gives?

[AAABEST]

Thank you! Boy you mild mannered types are effective when you get mad.

I certainly wouldn't want to see some psycho RAT elected in '04 to go around with crazy enviro exec orders and nominating judicial pinkos, but for God's sake I don't know what to do anymore. We're really in bad shape here. This really, really sux and is hard to deal with. Insufferable even.

We're literally getting beating into the ground by those we trusted and supported. This might sound stupid but I was crying this morning when I read this post, from a poster I don't even know. It hit me like a ton of bricks.

I'm literally sick and tired and see no solution. I really feel as if we're f***ed, in a bad way. It's like an avalanche lately.

[dirtboy]

I'm sick as well. And maybe the American political intellect is just too far gone for any kind of restoration to anything resembling limited government and Constitutional principles. If it is too hard for the GOP and Bush to stand up and state the obvious, that giving a tax credit to someone who doesn't pay taxes is nothing more than welfare, then either they are spineless or the American public is clueless, and I figure it's a good amount of both in play here. One would think that with Clinton out of the way and the GOP in charge of the whole shebang, we would at least not make matters worse and maybe make things a little better. Now, when the Dems demand to build a fire, the GOP brings the gasoline can instead of the water bucket and they both dance as the blaze roars.

JimRob, after this week, I don't know if your concept of first electing the GOP to power and then trying to change them from within can work. We're taken two steps forward on your plan, and all we have to show for it is a deficit approaching a half trillion dollars, and a GOP Congress and a President who can't say no to the Democrats.

[dirtboy]

I certainly wouldn't want to see some psycho RAT elected in '04 to go around with crazy enviro exec orders and nominating judicial pinkos, but for God's sake I don't know what to do anymore.

Any more the only choice seems to be between a bigger frying pan or a bigger fire...

[AAABEST]

Post #19 was a picture of a bullseye with the words "nature will take it's course" underneath. It looked exactly like this:

"Nature will take it's course."

Did you make a mistake or delete the wrong post? If not, why on earth did you delete that?

[Jim Robinson]

Sorry, there's no other way.

[dirtboy]

Sorry, there's no other way.

So what are we getting going this route? Expansion of Medicare and the de facto gutting of welfare reform with the expansion of the child tax credit to those who don't pay taxes? All in two weeks? And all made possible with the support of the GOP? What do we have to look forward to next week? This is getting absurd. Clinton won elections by stealing issues from the GOP. Bush seems to be trying to do the same by stealing Dem issues - but he already is in control of the House and Senate, HE DOESN'T FRIGGIN' NEED TO BE DOING THIS TO WIN!

We gotta start yelling really loudly or else there won't be anything left to restore except the smoking ruins of a failed welfare state.

[Jim Robinson]

So yell. But don't elect democrats. I guarantee you that's the losing run. Gotta elect conservatives and there are NONE in the Democrat Party. Also have to continue holding the majority. Gotta move the conservatives up through the farm teams. Will take time, and a helluvalot of hard work, blood, sweat and tears, but there is NO other way. NO ONE ever promised us a rose garden.

[Consort]

This might sound stupid but I was crying...

What are you going to do if the Liberals implement Universal Health Care and the massive tax increase it will take to fund it? What did those who cried when Bush reneged on his Read My Lips promise do after Clinton showed them what a real tax increase looked like?

[Sabertooth]

Just make sure you don't do anything that enables the Liberals to get into power like what happened in '92.

Clinton and the Left were enabled when Bush 41 took economic conservatives for granted.

I don't understand the particular compulsion to rationalize that fact away, but I don't deny it's attractiveness to many in this forum.

[TLBSHOW]

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[Sabertooth]

What are you going to do if the Liberals implement Universal Health Care and the massive tax increase it will take to fund it?

Recall out loud the aid and comfort given to their efforts by President Bush 43's prescription drugs vote-buying scheme.

What did those who cried when Bush reneged on his Read My Lips promise do after Clinton showed them what a real tax increase looked like?

Bush 41's lost constituency showed up at the polls in '94 to demonstrate to the go-along/get-along RINOs why they shouldn't be taken for granted.

[AAABEST]

Well at least you can think critically.

The thought of having Rangle in charge of ways and means or a Gore-like goon empowering enviro-freaks is a horrid thought. The alternative is to continue to eat it and get to the same point with the GOP, just a little bit slower. Or maybe even faster by the looks of things lately.

Tell you the truth I don't have the answer, neither do you or JimRob, despite his attempts to provide leadership. He's just as confused and frustrated as the rest of us.

[Consort]

Clinton and the Left were enabled when Bush 41 took economic conservatives for granted.

As you know, that's wrong. It was the Ideologically Correct Conservative who dropped the ball big time in '92 when they put ideology over country. When Conservatives screw up, everybody gets hurt.

[Sabertooth]

Sorry, there's no other way.

Sure there is, appeasing the Left isn't the only option for the GOP.

[Jim Robinson]

Huh? Who's appeasing the left. I'm saying vote them OUT!

[okie01]

"So yell. But don't elect democrats. I guarantee you that's the losing run. Gotta elect conservatives and there are NONE in the Democrat Party. Also have to continue holding the majority. Gotta move the conservatives up through the farm teams. Will take time, and a helluvalot of hard work, blood, sweat and tears, but there is NO other way. NO ONE ever promised us a rose garden."

Jim is right.

There are no magic bullets.

The next step is to squash the Democrats like cockroaches at the polls.

Then, we start on the RINOS.

All the while keeping a close eye on what emerges from the ashes of the left -- which might actually be turned to our favor. A triumphant GOP will never buy into term limits. But a renascent (and reconstituted) Democrat party might buy into the concept...

[AAABEST]

Not for anything but Clintons tax increase was not much more that Bush 41's (you rember the scumbag that brought us the AWB, 300 bil in tax increases and turned in his NRA membership card). Another thing is that with the GOP as the opposition, Clinton grew government far less than Bush 43 has.

The GOP is effective when they provide conservative leadership, as Reagan did and as the takeover in '94 showed.

This person we have in the Whitehouse is no leader and no conservative. He's given the liberals and socialists more than they ever could have dreamed.

Don't even get me started on his useless punk brother. God help us if THAT jackass moron ever gets anywhere near the Whitehouse. The Bushes care about their asses first, everything else comes second, just as all blueblood Rockafellers do. This is fact.

[Consort]

Bush is in the White House for one or two terms. If he does something we don't like, as his father did, it's the GOP that will likely undo those mistakes and not the Democrats. Bush and the GOP Congress are undoing much of his father's and Clinton's tax increases and they intend to continue. Clinton appointed over 370 Liberal judges; Bush won't do that. Clinton depleted the military with little or no replenishment; Bush won't do that. Any social spending by a Republican President will be dwarfted by a Democrat President. It goes on and on.

[AAABEST]

Then, we start on the RINOS.

OK then, I'm with you. We go to work now and remove GWB in the primaries. Perfect solution, I'm dead serious too.