People want to know: Who is Scott Peterson?

The Modesto Bee ^ | January 23, 2003 Posted: 05:10:11 AM PST | Ty Phillips

[muggs]

No, I think if anyone else is involved, it is Scott's family, maybe his father.

[BonneBlue]

He said Scott called him in the morning. He told his dad Laci was preparing for a walk.(No mention of Laci mopping floor). He was going to go fishing and they discussed their plans for Christmas eve. A little later Scotts dad said Scott called him during the day while he was fishing and they discussed their Christmas eve plans. I believe on another interview earlier in the investigation, perhaps it was on LKL, Lee Peterson did not mention any phone calls with his son on Dec 24th. It was after the disappearance he said that Scott told him Laci was mopping the floor that morning.

[muggs]

You need to change your hours so you can stay on these threads longer ha ha. I should talk!

Man, I go to sleep for a few hours and then take care of a little busineess this morning and I'm not sure I'm going to be able to catch up.

[muggs]

It seems like this story has brought out a lot of lurkers and inspired new people to sign on to FR.

[spectre]

Well, It would seem LE should have records regarding the cell phone calls?

Course, Mr. Patterson could say "I meant I called him while he was at the fishing marina, as he was hooking the boat up to the truck and of course, by then, he had access to his cell phone, yada, yada, yada"..

ALL their bases are covered.

sw

[muggs]

The credit companies figure since the bankrupt person can't go bankrupt again any time soon, the bankrupt party will not have an easy out to keep from paying the credit company back. So some credit companies actually seem to like lending to people who've had a recent bankruptcy.

Yeah, I guess that does make sense.

[Devil_Anse]

If Lee Peterson is fabricating these phone calls, especially the one supposedly made while fishing, he must be crazy. He must know that cellphone records will at least prove or disprove the story about the call made while fishing (unless there's a land line somewhere out in the Bay.) And what about the supposed call to dad in the morning, before going fishing? Isn't Lee Peterson in San Diego? So that would show up as long distance call on Scott's home phone--or if made from the cellphone, it would show up on cellphone records.

As STOCKHRSE said, they can determine through the towers used, more or less, where a person was when he made a cell call.

I just thought of this, though: What if Lee Peterson has an 800 number for his business? What if he was at the office the morning of Dec. 24th? (Lots of people worked that morning.) Wonder if the individual phone calls would be discernible on either end if Scott was calling an 800 number...

[muggs]

As for the suggestion of their having kept property safe from the bankruptcy by conveying it to their parents or whatever, they would have to really watch it if they did such a thing. That can get one in trouble with the feds.

Well, murder can get you in quite a bit of trouble too, but that probably didn't stop Scott.

[Devil_Anse]

Yeah, I can see it now: "charged with two counts of first degree murder...and one count of bankruptcy fraud." All speculation and opinion, of course--I don't even know that there ever was a bankruptcy, much less bankruptcy fraud.

It would remind me of cases where you read of someone being charged with murder, and also charged with abusing a corpse, because of whatever they did with the body.

[spectre]

There is an older couple up the street from me who went bankrupt last year. It was in the newspaper, they owed over $300,000.

They STILL have their home, which is not paid for, they have two luxury cars AND yard service, house-keeper, and trucks pull up there an average of once a month delivering new furniture. Oh, they have Sunday Brunch at the local Country Club. Cool, huh?

Everyone in the neighborhood are just "shaking their heads"...as we put the stamp on the next bill WE have to pay.

sw

[BonneBlue]

I am not entirely sure he is fabricating the phone call stories. They must know that LE has records? Trying to cover for phone calls between he and Scott on Dec 24th? In so doing he is becoming confused. Remember LE has not ruled out an accomplice or other family members. Transcripts for Greta's show last night? I would like to review what was said.

[Devil_Anse]

Maybe ego will be what solves this case.

I am thinking of a case I saw on A&E a while back. It involved a monster named Spangler who was tried for pushing his wife off a cliff--claimed it was an accident--and when they dug into that case, they found that years earlier, his prior wife had "shot their two teenaged children, then shot herself."

They ended up charging him with three more murders for that earlier one.

They felt they had the evidence in the cliff murder case, but they needed to find out more about the so-called "murder-suicide" case. So they interviewed him, with his consent. The man made a comment about how the police should interview and study serial killers. The police replied, "Yeah, sure--but that wouldn't be you. You're not a serial killer. If you had done that one, it would have been just a mass murder." Well, believe it or not, it seems this Spangler must have felt that they dissed him--and he began to talk more candidly about what really had happened to his prior wife and two children. Ba da bing! (As another poster astutely said earlier.)

Then there was the Unabomber. He enjoyed getting away with something for about 18 years. Then suddenly this rude guy (or guys) comes along and upstages him by spectacularly annihilating a whole building full of people in Oklahoma City. I think the Unabomber was feeling upstaged. Next thing we know, he's writing stuff to major newspapers.

Ego!

[muggs]

Has anyone written a book about Spangler ? I might like to find out more about the case. I don't know why I become so obsessed with murder stories.

[spectre]

Fox news just reported that the Life Insurance Policy was taken out on Laci SHORTLY after she became pregnant...hummm?

Laci family press conference is scheduled for 5:30pm EASTERN Time. They will read a statement and answer questions.

A member of the Peterson family will also be there for damage control, if necessary..

Be back then..sw

[spectre]

Ping for news conference info..

[Devil_Anse]

Not that I know of, I just saw it on one of the true crime shows. Believe me, this one will make you sick.

All that is in this post is based on my memory of a show I saw on TV. It is my opinion and I have no personal knowledge of the facts.

You know how he managed to kill his first wife easily? It was around Christmas, and he asked her to come downstairs to their furnished basement. He asked her to sit down at a desk there, a desk that had a typewriter on it. (It was in the 70's.) Then he told her he had an early Christmas surprise for her, and told her to close her eyes. She did, whereupon he aimed a gun at her temple and blew her brains out. He then typed out a suicide note, and signed it with the first three letters of her name, or her initials or something. He left the note in the typewriter in front of her body. The note included an "explanation" of "why she shot her two teenaged children."

Then he went upstairs and shot the girl, who was asleep. Then he went to the boy's room. The boy wasn't asleep so he shot him, but the boy moved and didn't die from it, so the man grabbed him, fought with him, and strangled him, leaving him lying half-off the end of the bed, head down.

The explanation was accepted and he remained free and was not charged with anything! The second wife "fell off a cliff" while they were hiking, in about 1991.

[PleaseNoMore]

Muggs, the banks that I deal with extend credit to a lot of people immediately after their bankruptcy(s). As a matter of fact I have just closed a mtg for a man that has filed chapters 7 AND 13 over the years. So it is possible. Not the best interest rates so I am wondering if that is not the reason for the Peterson's two refi's?????? The first one to get back on track and the second to lower their rate after paying on time for a year or so.

[STOCKHRSE]

"can they track a 800# call to the tower..."
Yes I THINK because the call itself may be toll free but the minutes of use are still calculated against your allowed max under your particular plan...so they have to track the signal... and the do that from the tower.IMHO

[Rusty Roberts]

Now as I remember, I cannot state absolutely, he made it sound like it was while he was fishing, but if there is a transcript maybe it can be checked? It might be that he said something to the effect, "while he was gone that day fishing, he called me and we talked...."

[Rusty Roberts]

Yes, the call is traceable, I have an 800 number, and you will be able to trace all incoming and outgoing calls to that number: time called in or out, number dialed in our out and length of call. I get a huge printout every month for my business that I need to verify all are actual business calls. They could get warrants for his cell phone and the lanline at the marina , which I'm pretty sure they have just to cover all bases.

Remember, this bankruptcy thing, I need some real verification. I'm going slow on this because RG did a quick search through some databases he had available and could not find any records for them, so until that is truly verified, we ought to go slow on that. Both their families would be aware of that, none are commenting on it, which I find interesting.