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They Keep Driving Dixie Down
Lew Rockwell ^ | 1/15/03 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 01/15/2003 9:14:10 AM PST by billbears

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To: MHGinTN
Here in East Tennessee, cornbread rises to a bump in the middle, 2 - 3 inches thick, and grainy with corn meal.

Now that sounds like cornbread. Mmmmmm...is right!

41 posted on 01/16/2003 2:38:35 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: billbears
BTTT!
42 posted on 01/16/2003 2:50:19 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: thatdewd
I love deer hunting. It's my main love outside of my family and work. I got 2 mature does this year but didn't see any wall worthy buckeroos. I haven't shot a buck....in 19 years believe it or not. There is a 12 point 22" inside spread Tensas Parish Louisiana(Lake Bruin) buck above my fireplace mantle.....until I can match him or better....I'll keep waiting....I'm 45...I guess I could pay the big bucks and go down to Mississippi to Giles Plantation or Tara Wildlife and hunt their managed deer plots but at 3500-5000 bucks for 3 days and 2 nights....I'm not so sure....It just doesn't seem right.

I am thinking about maybe hitting the Cumberlands for some big boar hunting in Feb or March...never done that. I only hunt primitive....and usually from the ground. How about that huge B&C nontypical that kid shot right outside Hendersonville last year...it was the new world record B&C I think.

Damn ...there are so many deer and they are getting bigger if managed right.

I don't call Turkeys but I have bushwhacked a few in my day....I was a big duck hunter too down in the Miss Delta years ago till my buddy who owned it crashed his plane there.

I would love to own enough land to hunt but I'd need to be way out from Nashville like in Hickman or Perry county to be able to afford anything and all my business is here. I do hunt the Big Sandy area in Benton county at a small lease and down in Copiah county Mississippi at my cousins camp.

Enough deer talk....you got me started...I use Grissoms in Greenbriar for processing btw.

I just drove in to the Green Hills Blockbuster and Hills grocer....roads are pretty bad but not too crowded....lots of cars off the road or abandoned. I've got an old Land Rover which besides being a royal pain is very good in wintry stuff and offroad.

I'm not too optimistic that manana is going to be much better but I've got to do weekend deposits.

I'm usually at my place.....Vanguard Storage in Old Hickory(on OHB behind the Sonic...lol)....drop in if you're ever in the area.

Regards
43 posted on 01/16/2003 5:46:42 PM PST by wardaddy (aren't married guys supposed to live longer.....unless their wives kill them first.)
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To: billbears
Billbears and all.

For great insight into the Dems and where they are today; the Repub. Party and where it is today; and where we are all heading if we don't take a stand, go to Newsmax.com and read Diane Alden's latest column on Three Monsters.
The denigration of the South is part of the lying, cheating done by lib/dems and one of their divisive techniques.

vaudine
44 posted on 01/16/2003 6:02:19 PM PST by vaudine
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To: billbears
billbears and all:

Sorry-Diane Alden's Outrage Times Three, Jan 17 (I guess I thought of Dems and got the word monsters. Then, read her Jan 7, Saul Alinsky in South Dakota.

I believe I am more concerned right now with the import of voter fraud and Dems taking the radical Alinsky playbook for radicals as their bible than I am Iraq, medicare, etc.
Please, especially read the list of tenets in the Alinsky article. Instant understanding of the Dem/Repub relationship.
vaudine
45 posted on 01/16/2003 6:09:27 PM PST by vaudine
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To: Colt .45
>>I can say that I am personally ashamed of Dick Gephart.<<


Same here. What Gephardt and the Governors office did here in Missouri this week would mad Joe Stalin proud.
Of course the leftist press has to pile on.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/Editorial/01D117BE7943766186256CB00050458E?OpenDocument&Headline=Flap%20comes%20to%20Missouri

There was no debate, no discussion about this. And then a typical Post Disgrace editorial.
First Gov. Ryan R-Ill. take a slap at the death penalty and then removal of a couple of old flags from a Mo. historial site, it hasn't been a good week here in the Mid-west.

46 posted on 01/16/2003 6:27:42 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Missouri
mad=make
47 posted on 01/16/2003 6:29:20 PM PST by Missouri
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To: thatdewd
Now that sounds like cornbread. Mmmmmm...is right!

Had some tonight! And beans.

48 posted on 01/16/2003 6:30:36 PM PST by lonestar
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To: billbears; WhiskeyPapa; Non-Sequitur
Here’s the answer. Modern-day liberals, and the Cold War liberals who claim the mantle of the conservative movement, understand that the idea of the South – the South that stood up to northern aggressors, to Reconstruction-era dictators, and to federal authorities in the civil rights era – still resonates among those Americans who want to stand up to centralized government.

So it's a bit like the Jolly Roger. Or the black flag of anarchy. But the Confederates weren't anarchists or libertarians. Had they Confederacy won, they'd have given those who love freedom, maybe even Rockwellite anarchists, a lot to complain about.

The reason why many people dislike and distrust the CBF, is because for them its associations with slavery, tyranny, and segregation can't be whitewashed away. It's a mistake to identify the South with the Confederacy and its flags. And an even greater mistake to turn the CBF into an icon of conservatism or Christendom. Rockwell & Company have had to falsify a lot of history to reach that conclusion, but one shouldn't be deceived by them.

49 posted on 01/16/2003 6:51:42 PM PST by x
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To: wardaddy
My buddy has a bunch of fruit trees at the end of his 'yard', and the deer love them. Many a time when I've been up there and left after dark, they'd be out munching apples and would snort in challenge as I went to my car. They don't run so easy when there's apples. I've seen oodles of them up there, but they were all smallish, and nearly all does and young'uns, of course. Those deer give him a hard time. His garden didn't fair too well against them this past year, and the turkeys ate most of his berries to boot.

I haven't hunted in twenty years, kind of gave it up after I left Washington State. I went out there after high school and lived for two years, and I was addicted to hunting then. Believe it or not, their deer populations suck. That was the early eighties, and it was terrible. The limit was 1 buck per season. You got a tag with your license, and if you got caught with a dead buck that didn't have that tag on it, it was like manslaughter or something. They'd have a lottery and issue a few doe tags, but just a very few. I never did get a deer up there, but I had passed on a few smaller ones not wanting to "waste" my tag, which is what happened both years by doing that. I had come from Alabama where the limit was like one a day, and there it was one per season. It was a shock to me. All their limits on everything were real low, fish too.

I hunted grouse for the first time up there and was very unimpressed. I had read all those stories about it in Field and Stream while growing up, and was excited to try it. What a let-down. They're no smarter than turkeys. I could walk right up on them. If only I could do that with deer...

If you go after a boar, take plenty of soap and make sure he's dead. They stink really bad and they're MEAN. I've never hunted them, but that's what I've heard.

Thanks for the invite, when I'm down that way I'll holler. Stay warm, snow's always prettier from inside.

50 posted on 01/16/2003 8:33:12 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: billbears
Good a place as any to post this: I'm renting a car Saturday, driving out of NYC, gonna spend 9-10 days heading down through Dixie, a "clear-my-head-don't-bother-me" vacation, wife-approved.

Plan is to take all back roads once I zip through Pennsylvania. Down through West Virginia, into Blacksburg, hook up with the Blue Ridge in N.C., angle towards the Smokies and Tennessee. Hit Nashville, then take the Natchez-Trace down through Alabama and Miss., maybe end up in New Orleans eventually. NO INTERSTATES. I want to see some of the REAL Dixie. Just gotta be in Memphis on the tenth day to meet my cousin and drop the rental off, fly back to NYC two days later.

I know, it's stupid to do this in the middle of January, but I need a vacation NOW, plus I'll have it all to myself. Anyone with any tips I'd be much obliged.

51 posted on 01/16/2003 8:51:42 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: x
And an even greater mistake to turn the CBF into an icon of conservatism or Christendom

Indeed, but it's also a mistake to turn it into a modern day bogeyman for anything other than we Southerners recognition of our dead kinfolks. Those of you who have no dog int this hunt should leave well enough alone. No one is attempting to fly the CBF in your face up north...except some obscure Reb cemetary somewhere in PA I read about(if that bothers you)

52 posted on 01/16/2003 9:01:33 PM PST by wardaddy (I'm in it cause I loathe PC bootheels.....nothing else....don't care to change history)
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To: stand watie
the LAST TIME the KKK marched on DC, there was NOT a SINGLE CSA flag, but a LEGION of US flags in the parade of dumb-bunnies.


53 posted on 01/16/2003 9:05:13 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Jhensy
Sounds like a great road trip, friend. Take in the beautiful scenery, enjoy the Southern vittles, and take a few minutes to chat with the locals.

Road trips in the South are the best. Tip your hat and wave as you pass!

54 posted on 01/16/2003 9:55:40 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Jefferson Adams
Hey that doesn't look like Richmond! (heh....heheh...)
55 posted on 01/16/2003 9:56:48 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: billbears
Thank you for posting this article. It is the best thing I have read on this topic. As one who was born and still lives in Dixieland, I agree l00% with what the writer has to say. Bravo to him for writing this excellent piece.I, too have wondered why more Southern people do not stand up for their heritage.All of this is history and should not be buried, changed or swept away.
56 posted on 01/16/2003 11:03:45 PM PST by Gogranny
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To: thatdewd
I live north of you in Sumner County. I lived in Nashville (Antioch area) for 5 years, back in the late eighties and early nineties.

Then we were neighbors. I lived off Heywood Lane in that time frame.

Nashville is a great town.

Walt

57 posted on 01/17/2003 6:03:36 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: Jhensy
If you want to see the real Dixie I would recommend staying out of Asheville NC. Having lived there for seven years, it is not indicative of the real South. The place is full of yankees. Also avoid Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge. A long, but good, route through Western NC is down 19/23 back towards Murphy. You have to go through Asheville but just be wary of what you see there. You can take a cutback road through the mountains to Sweetwater TN. 129 I believe. Comes out about 70 miles South of Knoxville
58 posted on 01/17/2003 6:36:42 AM PST by billbears
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To: billbears; Jhensy
Also avoid Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge.

By all means avoid the Great Smokey mountains. It's the most visited national park in the country.

Both these locations are great fun and not to be missed.

Gee whiz BB, the last time I was in G-burg there was some place flying about 40 Confederate Battle Flags. You'd love it.

Right now, the roads are probably pretty icy though.

Walt

59 posted on 01/17/2003 7:58:05 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Thanks all for the info. I take it that Pigeon Forge is some sort of tourist trap- I notice on the map that Dollywood is right next door. Graceland will be enough 'culture' for me, thanks. And what makes the Smokies so popular? What could possibly be going on there this time of year?

My itinerary isn't etched in stone...I might do the Cumberland Gap route (for the history), but that means missing the high peaks in N.C. east of the Smokies...hmmm.

It'll be a pleasure to tip my hat and wave hello to passers-by, not a common practice here in NYC.

60 posted on 01/17/2003 9:34:03 AM PST by Jhensy
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