Republicans and Civil Rights

newsmax ^ | 12/14/2002 | Diane Alden

[mhking]

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[TLBSHOW]

So, people only feel willing to agree with you in Freep mail, they are too ashamed to admit it in public?
asks dogbyte12......


Funny dogbyte!
No not at all. It is more like they don't wanna be attacked by the likes of the blinded. Like Trent was.

Trent wasn't a being a racist that night and that didn't matter to a certain group of people. So now story after story is coming out about Trent and republicans but as seen from this story is all lies from democrats.

Face it the race issue will be finished by the democrats against republicans only by standing up to the rats with truth such as this very good fact filled story with great links at the source. Read it.

[TLBSHOW]

You saying the republicans are any different?


Are you related to w. pitt by any chance? Please take no offense.

Oh and Yes I am saying the republicans are different. The republicans are nothing like the corrupt commie democrat, socialist lovin party, of petty rats.

doug could it be?

[sauropod]

Howdy. I hope you had a blessed Christmas and New Year.

I do think Bush is a RINO. However, his proposals on eliminating the taxes on dividends sound pretty good to me!

Cheers, 'Pod

[Howlin]

I did have a wonderful Christmas. I had 23 here on New Years Eve....my stepdaughters and their families and my niece and nephew were all here -- so it was just fabulous. (I am, however, glad the last of them left today so I can get back to the news....LOL)

I am NOT happy with every single thing Bush does, which I am sure will shock some people. That being said, I refuse to let the likes of Trent Lott brand ME a racist just to try to save his sorry butt. Granted, I live in the South, but, hey, we're LOADED with white trash here that I don't want to associate with either, if you get my drift!

In fact, I agree with most of this article. It's the poster who has gone on a vendetta against Bush that bothers me.

[wimpycat]

You're right about that, although I don't think the perception equals the reality as far as Trent Lott is concerned.

I don't agree with everything Bush does, either, although I understand most of the reasons behind what he does, even though I don't agree with it.

The only way I'm ever going to get a president who does everything I want is if I run for President myself.

[TLBSHOW]

I refuse to let the likes of Trent Lott brand ME a racist

He didn't brand you, that is the point its the likes of Hillary and Bill Clinton that did.

[TLBSHOW]

Trent was a democrat once but no more and he wasn't being a racist at the party.

Anyways......

I like what Bush said here in post 1 that I posted. He said it back in 2000.

Looks like the President was ahead of the issue here.


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We heard it in the civil rights movement, when brave men and women did not say ... "We shall cope," or "We shall see." They said ... "We shall overcome."

An American president must call upon that character.

George W. Bush - August 2000

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/8/3/221349

1 posted on 01/04/2003 6:38 PM EST by TLBSHOW

[Howlin]

You cannot possibly be that dumb. He surely did, on BET. Don't bother to try to refute it; I have the transcript and SAW the interview.

You could be the only person in the world who doesn't know Lott branded ALL of the South as racist to excuse his sorry A$$. Believe me when I tell you, the Thurmond people are FURIOUS with what Lott did.

[Howlin]

and he wasn't being a racist at the party.

I know people who were AT that party; they said you could have heard a pin drop when he said it and that they were ALL shocked.

And they ALL knew what he meant. And they ALL knew that hell was going to break loose.

The difference between Lott and Thurmond is that Thurmond is NOT a bigot anymore. Lott may not be, but he was willing to characterize his entire party and the South as bigots to exucse his crudy remarks.

Don't ever talk about George W. Bush selling out the GOP; Trent Lott did it in spades.

And with your full support, I might add.

[TLBSHOW]

What I heard about the party was there was much laughter at the roast of Storm. I don't watch Bet TV in fact I always say throw out your TV, the internet is best.

Anyways explain this then?

New York Congressman Peter King charged Sunday that former President Bill Clinton's poor record on civil rights while he was governor of Arkansas includes episodes of support for racial discrimination that were "far beyond anything that Trent Lott ever did."

Asked about recent criticism from both the ex-president and New York Sen. Hillary Clinton that the GOP has pandered to racist whites in the South, the Long Island Republican told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg:

"Certainly to see him and Hillary Clinton in the last few weeks criticizing, not just Trent Lott but the entire Republican Party - saying how our philosophy is based on racism and all that nonsense - and then, realizing what his record was in Arkansas, I mean - there's a list with Bill Clinton that's far beyond anything that Trent Lott ever did."

Asked how the press was able to ignore Clinton's history of Voting Rights Act violations and racial profiling in Arkansas through two presidential campaigns, King explained: "All I can say is, you know, the focus is on different issues at different times. Back in 1992, Bill Clinton was very cleverly able to put all the focus on the economy. ... And also, the negative attention on him involved Gennifer Flowers and all those stories."

In her 1998 memoir "Lift Every Voice," former Clinton Justice Department Civil Rights Division nominee Lani Guinier revealed that the ex-president's record on race as governor of Arkansas was so bad she was compelled to take legal action. "As a staff lawyer for the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, I had sued Gov. Clinton over Arkansas's deputy voter registration statute," Guinier recalled.

Asked by NewsMax in late December about the NAACP lawsuit, Guinier - now a professor at Harvard University - confirmed that "Clinton was sued in his official capacity as governor," but declined to provide further details.

But in a story first reported by NewsMax last month and completely overlooked by the big media, local Arkansas press reports in the late 1980s painted an ugly picture of the Clinton administration's attempts to intimidate black voters.

In the 1989 NAACP lawsuit, "the evidence at the trial was indeed overwhelming that the Voting Rights Act had been violated," reported the Arkansas Gazette (which later became the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette) on Dec. 6, 1989.

"Plaintiffs offered plenty of proof of monolithic voting along racial lines, intimidation of black voters and candidates, other official acts that made voting harder for blacks," the Gazette said.

A federal three-judge panel ordered Clinton, his attorney general, Steve Clark, and his secretary of state, William J. McCuen, to draw new boundaries to give maximum strength to black voters.

"Until last year," the Gazette complained at the time, "in more than a thousand legislative elections, the [Arkansas] delta region sent not one black to the legislature. Last year, the federal district court split a multimember district in Crittenden County that had submerged the large number of black voters in the county."

In other past reports overlooked by the press during the Trent Lott fiasco, the Washington Times and the Associated Press had detailed Clinton's history of support for racial profiling in Arkansas, as well as a U.S. Supreme Court verdict sanctioning him for attempting to replace a duly elected black state representative with a white Democrat.

With his comments to WABC Radio on Sunday,

Rep. King becomes the first elected official

to break the mainstream media's information embargo on Clinton's racial record in Arkansas since the former first couple began criticizing Republicans as racist.

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/1/5/125447

[Howlin]

I am not going to explain anything to you.

I know people who were there. You don't.

And it's fine with you if Lott branded me and the entire party and the South racists to try to save his sorry bigoted butt.

That's all I need to know about you. You're not better than the Democrats you claim to hate.

[TLBSHOW]

And it's fine with you if Lott branded me and the entire party and the South racists to try to save his sorry bigoted butt.
.......

He didn't it was the Clintons and the rats that branded you. The Clinons and the rats are dead wrong and they are the racist ones as Peter king said on WABC radio....

Explain this?

What did Lott say?

"I am pleased to join my colleagues in paying tribute to Senator Strom Thurman and honoring him for his unparalleled record of public service to this Nation.... In 1948, while he was still Governor, Thurman ran for President as a State's Right Democrat and received 39 electoral votes, the third best showing by an independent candidate in U.S. history."

Oh wait… sorry, my mistake. That was Senator Carl Levin who said that on the floor of the U.S. Senate on September 24, 2002. Levin is Democrat from Michigan. Oh, and Thurman wasn't a Democrat back then, despite Levin wanting to claim as such. Thurman was a Dixiecrat.

http://www.rightturns.com/columnists/guest/sj/sjcurrent.htm


or this

After the war, Strom returned home to South Carolina. He was elected Governor in 1946 and then ran for President of the United States as the States Rights Democratic candidate. Although Harry Truman prevailed, Strom won four states and 39 electoral votes. That tally still stands as the third largest independent electoral vote in US history.

Despite not winning the presidency, Strom was determined to serve in Washington. He ran for the Senate in 1954 and became the only candidate elected to Congress by a write-in vote in American history. Strom has been re-elected eight times since. Clearly the people of South Carolina value principle, character and courage in their leaders.

http://frist.senate.gov/press-item.cfm?id=188730

Yes that is ML Bill Frist about Storm

AND THEN HERE IS TRENT ABOUT STORM JOKING AT A BIRTHDAY PARTY

Lott said Mississippians were proud to have voted for Thurmond in 1948. "And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."
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Get over it Trent didn't do a thing to you.......

Then we have the President that says of Trent

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
December 20, 2002

Statement by the President

"I respect the very difficult decision Trent made on behalf of the American people. As Majority and Minority Leader of the Senate, Trent Lott improved education for the American people; he led the way in securing tax relief; he strengthened our national security; and he stood for a bold and effective foreign policy.

Trent is a valued friend, and a man I respect. I am pleased he will continue to serve our Nation in the Senate, and I look forward to working with him on our agenda to make America safer, stronger, and better."

George W. Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/12/20021220.html

[Deb]

You are totally right on this one, Ms. H.

I couldn't watch the BET hanging because I knew exactly what would happen. Lott was repeatedly elected majority leader because he's a exceptionally good deal-maker. Which was good. Unfortunately, that's not good when it comes to advancing or advocating Republican principles.

I forget now which conservative said it (maybe Gary Bauer), but right after Lott stepped down, someone said that Lott had the support of the entire party until he started back-pedaling, apologizing and giving in to the race hustlers (my term). Then, there was no need to have him as the Republican leader.

So true. He did much better a few years ago when they tried to get him over "insensitive" remarks he made about gays. He never backed down.

Just as black Republicans are the bravest people in America today, Southern Republicans will be the second bravest in the next few years.

He said nothing wrong or differently about Strom than he had a thousand times in previous speeches and teasingly in the halls of the Senate and I would have defended Lott forever if he hadn't panicked and abandoned us all. So sad to watch.

[Howlin]

Well, since you missed it, what do you think about THIS remark:

LOTT: I want to talk about the King holiday. I want to go back to that. I'm not sure we in America, certainly not white America and the people in the South, fully understood who this man was; the impact he was having on the fabric of this country.

This from a man who claimed in the same interview that he had studied Civil Rights in law school!

[Howlin]

Get over it Trent didn't do a thing to you.......

LOTT: A lot of, I think, what is wrong here is not enough communication, not enough understanding of how people feel and how, you know, there has been immoral leadership in my part of the country for a long time. Progress has been made...

GORDON: Were you a part of that?

LOTT: Yes, I can't deny that. And I--you know, that--I believe that I have changed and that I'm trying to do a better job. But yes, I'm a part of the region and the history that has not always done what it was supposed to have done.

You are being deliberately obtuse if you don't see that. And if you don't see it, you're the ONLY one who doesn't.

He's a dead man in the Senate now, along with Jim Jeffords. Your hero. We do not want or need bigots and racist like you two in the GOP.

[TLBSHOW]

He said nothing wrong or differently about Strom than he had a thousand times in previous speeches and teasingly in the halls of the Senate and I would have defended Lott forever if he hadn't panicked and abandoned us all. So sad to watch.

.......
so dramatic! LOL

[Deb]

I saw that clip. It made me sick to my stomach. The interviews of people in the audience showed it made them sick too. They had more contempt for him after the show, than before. And it sent conservatives to bathrooms all over the country.

If only he had used Robert Byrd as his model and spit in their eye, he'd be Majority Leader today.

[TLBSHOW]

He's a dead man in the Senate now....

In your dreams!

[Howlin]

No, in real life; something you haven't touched base with in years.