Posted on 12/27/2002 12:16:35 AM PST by kattracks
You do realize, don't you, that this passage can also be interpreted as a prohibition against savings accounts, spare change in a jar, and investment in the stock market?
Besides, it looks to me like Mr. Jackson is not hoarding his money, but is rather giving it away.
If the money is derived from sin - its not "of God", nor does it exhalt Him.
By your measure, tithes of a contract killer would be acceptable for Holy use -
Money is the root of all evil...whats the hard part?
Congratulations you made ignore,
your hype and trivia were such a bore.
You made me sick, not one more word,
Everything you write is totally absurd.
You lie, cheat, deceive and steal,
making claims on some good deal.
Now if you want to truly profit,
I'll tell you how if you'll only stop it.
You must repent, confess your sin,
Arrange your account and buy CPN.
Hold it long and watch it not,
and within one year you'll have a lot.
If my words don't console you,
and the lines won't bring relief,
then what I've said, it must be true...
that CPN49er is a stupid thief.
P.S. The same goes for anyone hyping something at which there is almost no hope of return.
Perhaps for the unawake (in a stretch), rather in context of Luke 19 & Matt 25 it applies
Matt 25
14"Again, it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted his property to them.
15To one he gave five talents of money, to another two talents, and to another one talent, each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey.
16The man who had received the five talents went at once and put his money to work and gained five more.
17So also, the one with the two talents gained two more.
18But the man who had received the one talent went off, dug a hole in the ground and hid his master's money.
19"After a long time the master of those servants returned and settled accounts with them.
20The man who had received the five talents brought the other five. 'Master,' he said, 'you entrusted me with five talents. See, I have gained five more.'
21"His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'
22"The man with the two talents also came. 'Master,' he said, 'you entrusted me with two talents; see, I have gained two more.'
23"His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'
24"Then the man who had received the one talent came. 'Master,' he said, 'I knew that you are a hard man, harvesting where you have not sown and gathering where you have not scattered seed.
25So I was afraid and went out and hid your talent in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you.'
26"His master replied, 'You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed?
27Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.
28" 'Take the talent from him and give it to the one who has the ten talents.
29For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.
30And throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
Miss Marple, do you still care to make the contention that Ecc 5:13 applies "as a prohibition against savings accounts, spare change in a jar, and investment in the stock market?" ?
.........and he had how much last week?
Yes. And it is much more often a positive life giving force. Money big or small is just another of God's Blessings on us.
Wish it on me and my Church. We could both stand the strain.
In mortal sin, yes
Matthew 19:24
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
I thought it was *The love* of money is the root of all evil. If the Bible is against wealth, why did the master in Jesus's parable in Matthew reward the two servants who invested his money wisely and punish the one who buried his talent in the ground? Our attittude toward money is what is important; God blesses many good people with wealth and/or the ability to accumulate it.
So money is the reason "good" people do "bad" things? What responsibility do they have to only accumulate money through honest means?
I see..........but who are you to decide what is "of God" and what isn't? Jesus made it a point to hang out with the dregs of society.......and when He did, undoubtedly there were those who gave Him food, wine, shelter.........I assume He should not have accepted them, then.
Where do you work? What do you help produce? How are those products / services used? Are you so certain that they aren't used in some nefarious way by anybody on the planet?
I am in the engineering division of a LARGE computer company. Can I swear that the systems I help design aren't used in some "sinful" way? Does that mean that my income.......and thus my tithes and offerings........are unworthy; not "of God"?
To equate buying a few bucks worth of pieces of paper for a chance at winning bigger bucks with taking a contract for a hit is disingenuous and spurious.
While we're at it, let's attack every chuch fund-raiser known to man. We all know that the money should just walk in the door, so any attempt by churches to raise money for a youth group, let's say, is clearly not "of God", correct?
Look, I believe you to be a very, very decent and good person with a good heart.......but you'd best check your assumptions, my friend.
Proverbs 25 21 If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.
22 In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head, and the LORD will reward you.
23 As a north wind brings rain, so a sly tongue brings angry looks.
Do you hunger for worldly riches or living water ?
When you look at the verse in context, it reads:
"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go throught the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdome of God."
When the disciples heard this, they were very astonished and said, "Then who can be saved?"
And looking at them Jesus said to them, "With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
Matthew 19:24-26
When trying to determine a position to take based on the Bible, it is wise to consider the whole counsel of God rather than to pick out individual verses that support your position.
What about the story of Job. Godly man who was rich, God stripped him of all he had, stood the test of his convictions to God, God gives him everything and MORE for his convictions.
your choice
We all know that the money should just walk in the door, so any attempt by churches to raise money for a youth group, let's say, is clearly not "of God", correct?
how exactly is a Christian youth group not "of God"
For the record - my denomination does not participate in fundraisers, relying on tithes and offerings to fund our youth programs
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