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| 11/15/02
| FlyingA
Posted on 12/16/2002 7:06:21 AM PST by FlyingA
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To: gnarledmaw
Ouch. 25% cut in pay, plus I now have to cover my benefits and no 401K matching of course. AND the contract runs out in about 5 weeks and I have nothing in the pipe.
Bush signed an allowance for an increase of H1-B visas that could be issued for next year. Thanks W.
To: RaceBannon
Keep on Keeping on RaceBannon.
Hey good to here from you again Race.
FlyingA
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posted on
12/16/2002 7:38:49 AM PST
by
FlyingA
To: FlyingA
Hmmm..... maybe I'll travel to India and have an Indian family adopt me. Then I could return to the US as a H-1B worker with a guarantee of a job. What do you think...? I was thinking the same thing..
To: FlyingA
Take off your rosy glasses! ;^)
To: zx2dragon
HE Signed it?
I was not aware of this....
And he wants to Run Again
Oh Brother.
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posted on
12/16/2002 7:39:59 AM PST
by
FlyingA
To: SR71A; BrowningBAR; Robert Lomax; No_Doll_i; getgoing; madfly; RLK; Willie Green; ...
BTTT
To: headsonpikes
Whoops - Ok Cleaning my Glasses.
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posted on
12/16/2002 7:41:04 AM PST
by
FlyingA
To: FlyingA
Wheres Willie?
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posted on
12/16/2002 7:41:42 AM PST
by
FlyingA
To: FlyingA
Any US tech worker laid off while the H1B's hired later are still working or rejected for a job while a company brings in H1B's to work should sue under the civil right act. It is illegal to discriminate against someone due to national origin. Corporations engaged in this practice need to be hammered in the courts - with major judgements and class action suits. Unfortunately, there's not much that can be done about all the outsourcing - we can thank the "free traders" for that.
To: Free the USA; JohnHuang2; agitator; Tancred; Spiff; backhoe; Helix; Brownie74; bok; 4Freedom; ...
fyi
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posted on
12/16/2002 8:17:51 AM PST
by
madfly
To: Bogolyubski
Ditto
Bump
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posted on
12/16/2002 8:19:19 AM PST
by
FlyingA
To: FlyingA
My son is an EE working as a computer engineer...so mom has a level of personal interest here...my response to you is all those worker visas...all will work for Half of the American wage and work 60 hours a week ... You will not be able to compete
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posted on
12/16/2002 8:22:19 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: ppaul
"We don't care if it's built overseas or in the U.S., as long as it's built to the same high standards," says Forman,Mark the heart of the compassionate conservatives huh?
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posted on
12/16/2002 8:23:26 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: FlyingA
FlyingA, can you help me a little?
Everytime I restart this box it doesn't recognise mouse, keyboard or D drive, I have to enter safe mode, remove them and let windows find new hardware and reinstall drivers. What did I do to this thing?
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posted on
12/16/2002 8:24:46 AM PST
by
steve50
To: RaceBannon
Pathetic isn't it race?..prayers for you
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posted on
12/16/2002 8:26:18 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
To: zx2dragon
Ouch. 25% cut in pay, plus I now have to cover my benefits and no 401K matching of course. AND the contract runs out in about 5 weeks and I have nothing in the pipe. Bush signed an allowance for an increase of H1-B visas that could be issued for next year. Thanks W. Bump
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posted on
12/16/2002 8:39:09 AM PST
by
A. Pole
To: zx2dragon; Remedy; Militiaman7; widowithfoursons; Sungirl; Arpege92; Myrean; SouthernFreebird; ...
Here's some info I found via the zazona site. From an attorney's political campaign site in Calif. Hope this is helpful.
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That is the general proposition, but there are more specific concerns. First, the lack of real teeth against corporate abuse of these two programs requires a remedy. Instead of violations being a complaint-driven process, an active enforcement team needs to be established to respond to, investigate, track and coordinate legitimate complaints of abuses. While the Bar can take the initiative in many of these cases by prosecuting them on a contingency basis, particularly where they involve, as many appear to, instances of age discrimination, that is not enough. I believe that abuses of these two programs need to be armed with at least the same armory of regulatory and prosecutorial weapons that sex and disability discrimination cases have at their disposal, including remedies for recovery of both attorneys fees and punitive damages by successful plaintiffs. As a former plaintiff's personal injury lawyer, I can tell you that no lawyer worth his or her salt would willingly turn down a case coming to him on the silver platter of a government-established violation. (Compare, the willingness of many large corporate law firms to handle so-called "pro-bono" work on behalf of convicted felons, defaulting tenants, petty criminals and others undeserving of free legal representation, while ignoring the legitimate needs of people like laid-off workers suffering the abuses of H1B and L1. Next time you look for a lawyer, ask what kind of pro-bono work he or she does on your dime or dollar - and make your choice of counsel accordingly.)
Second, establishing the "need" for importing H1B and L1 workers should not be the responsibility of the corporations who stand to - and have! - benefit from their self-established need, but of an impartial factfinder, whether governmentally or privately and independently based. As is it now, the fox is not just guarding the henhouse, but building it - and what shoddy construction it is! Checks must replace the cracks in the construction to ensure that where H1B and L1 workers are legitimately employed they are being paid what their applications said they'd be paid, with penalties to both the employer and employee for any variances found from the prevailing or agreed-upon wage, whichever is higher. Corporations seeking to employ these workers must be required to demonstrate their actual need for them under a higher standard of proof than the relatively lax, self-defined one now in effect. And the "walk-on-water" rule of Sec. 412 of ACWIA must be permanently plugged.
Third, to help those who have been displaced NOW, training and workforce reintegration programs must be adequately funded and operated. That does NOT mean dumbing down intelligent tech workers to assume less skilled or challenging jobs than those they performed so well for so long in so many cases. Nor does it mean using money originally targeted for training to go to facilitating imported workers' access to Green Cards, thereby mindlessly exacerbating this problem. It means real training and what I'd call "internal reintegration," i.e., establishing a system for displaced workers to regain their prior jobs once the need for their replacements, if ever even legitimately established, has ended.
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posted on
12/16/2002 8:51:58 AM PST
by
madfly
To: RnMomof7
Boy, do I need your prayers, I am so broke, I cannot afford to pay attention!
To: harpseal
Over my computer illiterate head, but here's my deal... when I call say.. Dell with a problem. For once I'd like someone that speaks English and someone that I am not saying,sorry I don't understand a word your saying! Then when I finally do understand the garble, I'd like an answer that actually works!
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posted on
12/16/2002 9:22:29 AM PST
by
D. Miles
To: RaceBannon
LOL....
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posted on
12/16/2002 9:23:17 AM PST
by
RnMomof7
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