Trent Lott's Debacle - Now, Bush Must Act

December 14th, 2002 | Sabertooth

[EternalVigilance]

I'd tell the GOP to stick it.

I'll mark that down...

:;sinkspur advocates the most destructive outcome to this possible::

There...

[ApesForEvolution]

Well said. This whole thing gets worse, one way (future RAT-loving by the Lott) or the other (Lott being Lott).

[my right]

Lott has given us nothing bad choices. I didn't want him a Majority Leader again, but I'd have preferred that rather than him stepping aside under these circumstances.

I also did not want Lott as majority leader, I expressed that opinion here 3 weeks back.

I hold Republican politicians entirely responsible. It's their job to finish off the Democrats who've shot themselves in the foot, and they've repeatedly failed to even try to get it done.

What you have written here is very very important and is where the Republicans have utterly failed. We all know one big reason why they have failed is because of media bias. Now is the time they can possibly change this by using the bully pulpit of the presidency and the majority in the senate and house to point out these inequities and if the media does not report fairly what is said, this inequity should also be pointed out with every means available.

[TLBSHOW]

What is a shame is the right wing writers all were taken in by the liberal lie. They ALL have egg on their faces today!

As Sabia said they acted like girly-boys

[sinkspur]

You stepped in it big time and when you are no longer a target, we wil defend you to the end and use this to ram it right back up the racist RATS rear end if they don't drop it.

So, you will defend me when I'm no longer a target, but you won't defend me when I AM a target?

And, why don't you ram it up the RATS rear end NOW while the whole country's watching?

[Sabertooth]

Thanks. BTW, "oncfused" means "really confused and unfocused."

Yeah, that's it.

[HumanaeVitae]

Good post.

[EternalVigilance]

If he could choke something like this out, he might be left with some b*lls and a lot of respect from us all. However, apparently he is playing sandbox blackmail and if he doesn't get to be King then he is going to take all the Tinker Toys and go home to Mommy.

Very well said, and I totally agree on both points.

[joyful1]

If Lot won't step down as Senate leader, then he should be booted out of the Senate. He is not skilled for the job.

[Dave S]

Bush can't offer Lott a committee chairmanship; that's for the Senate Majority Leader to do.

You dont think Bush could get McConnel, or Frist, Nickles or Santorum for that matter, to agree to give Lott his choice of chairmanship and pork. Get real. All would willingly agree to this to have shot at replacing Lott.

He also can't damage his post-Senate career. Lott's being doing things for Mississippi a lot longer than Bush has been around, and he could make a pretty penny sitting on some Mississippi boards of companies he's helped.

Want to bet. Bush has one of the biggest rolladexes in existence. He is the all time fund raiser. He is enormously popular, especially in places like Mississippi.

Question why would all these Mississippi corporations want to pay him back for what he's done. Most would be more interested in what he could do for them now. If he could no longer bring home the bacon, there is little reason to have him around. Especially if being associated with him is going to cause trouble for them. Ever think of what Milk producers in New England think of Jeffords these days.

Plus he'd be a hero to those in Mississippi who voted for him because he'd have been railroaded out of Washington by a Northeastern establishment that they despise anyway.

Perhaps, but to many he would just be an embarrasment. I think most Missippians want to get past their sordid past and dont want to continue to be associated with Jim Crow and segregation. Besides virtually all of the potential replacement for Lott are Southernors as well.

[Endeavor]

You really don't have a clue, do you? I simply meant that anyone with two neurons to rub together would never buy the blackmail scheme.

[sinkspur]

sinkspur advocates the most destructive outcome to this possible::

If you're going to label me a racist, when I'm not, you better be ready to go down with me, because I'm taking you down with me.

Why would Lott care? He's the American equivalent of a Nazi if you stick the label of racist on him.

[Sabertooth]

We all know one big reason why they have failed is because of media bias.

I think GOP politicians secretly adore media bias, as it often gives thier cowardice an alibi.

[ApesForEvolution]

He referenced the 1948 Dixiecrats and his love of them and how if they'd won we'd all be better off and...and...and. But, the 1948 Dixiecrats were all about state's rights and not segregation, not at all. Nope, the fact that all 9 planks of the Dixiecrat Platform were born of racism has nothing to do with this latest Lott-debacle. Nope, not at all. He didn't say it. Huh-uh. It wasn't a good ole boy inference about segregation at a former segregationist's birhtday, and for the RATS to take it as such and use it weaken if not batter the GOP is all our imagination....

[Torie]

Sometimes things get over-analyzed. It would seem to me that if the caucus thinks Lott staying is more of a liability for them than his going, and have good reasons for that, then exactly what Lott did to whom, and who he is, and what he believes, tend to fade into irrelevancy. I don't see quite how his being dumped = charging he is a racist. Fairly or unfairly, given the pace of events, he himself has simply become the issue, and a liability, would be the brief against him, and one Lott himself should recognize, if it is in fact the case, is a respectable reason for him to be replaced. The work of the GOP caucus in the Senate is not about defending Lott's honor per se. It is about furthering its agenda. That is where the focus should lie. Whatever.

[Yaelle]

Wow. Your post 119 was really thorough. Thanks for it.

[neutrino]

I'm sorry, but I cannot concur. We would merely be submitting to leftist extortion. Keep Lott as a Senator and a Senate leader, and tell the demoncraps to (redacted) themselves.

[ApesForEvolution]

"But, you read into Lott's statement what you wanted to read into it."

You take the wiggle room (not much, if any) to go down with the Vacant Lott and many others don't nor won't.

[Lurker]

"No Senator Lott, you're too stupid and weakwilled to have as ML."

Regards,

The Prez.

[kcvl]

Democrat National Committee email...

Republicans Continue to Embrace Racially Divisive Politics

When incoming Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott told a roomful of people that "we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years" if America had voted for Strom Thurmond's segregationist presidential campaign in 1948, his words shocked the nation.

It was almost inconceivable that, in 2002, an incoming Senate Majority Leader would even imply that segregation would have a beneficial effect on the country.

But then we learned this wasn't the first time.

In 1980, Lott said almost the same exact thing, saying at a political rally, "You know, if we had elected [Thurmond] 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."

Do Senate Republicans really want someone with a pattern of racially divisive statements and a history of supporting organizations with racist policies and goals as their leader? Does Lott's statement represent the values of the Republican party?

With the GOP supporting voter intimidation efforts in recent elections, it's hardly a surprise that they would choose someone like Lott as their leader.

Lloyd Grove of The Washington Post told Tony Snow that James Carville was behind this. It is about getting back control of the Senate NOT about Trent Lott. Who do you think James Carville works for? Had you ever heard of him before the Clintons?