A request for clarification, as I often get my Bob Jones controversies oncfused: was it the tax-exempt status or the eligibility of Bob Jones students for federal financial aid and student loans that Lott supported? Or both?
Posted on 12/14/2002 10:47:02 AM PST by Sabertooth
Could you post a link where Lott's uncle said that Lott was a dues paying member of the CCC? That and the refusal to sponser the honor to the three murdered freedom riders are the biggest points I think.
The extension of the application to the south of the voting rights monitoring of the Civil Rights Act (there was no vote regarding extending the Civil Rights Act itself; that has no sunset clause), can be defended I suppose because there may not have been any evidence by then that blacks were still being disenfrancised, or more so in the south than in the north, and thus it was discriminatory, and should be ended or applied nationwide. The merits of that are fact driven arguably, not principle driven.
Again, I caution against weakening a case by overstating it. Your two solid bullet points may well be enough to put a stake in his heart, particularly if it can be substantiated that Lott was a dues paying member of the CCC, and has been lying about it. I fear that one, if true, will cause him to exit from the senate. That one is on a whole different level. I hope it proves to be untrue.
The Rat could only serve 90 days before a special election would be held.
I didn't know that.
I wrote a better speech for Lott to have said than his patronizing, cheery speech of yesterday.
"I grew up in a different age. I took my early opinions from the people around me, my parents, my schoolteachers, etc., whom I had no reason as a youth not to respect as my elders. Even in college [re the effort to keep blacks out of his frat] I had not yet become enlightened to the true nature of man and equality.
"Thank goodness I have long changed my youthful views, and I have worked consistently in public service to try and make America better for all people. (Bla bla..)
"However, I feel that my comments, as thoughtless as they were, may have embarrassed my President, my fellow Senators and Congressmen and women, and my party. Therefore, not to allow my party to ever have to hear from their detractors that we are a party who tolerates even slightly bigoted views, I heretofore call for a new vote among Senate Republicans for Majority Leader. I beg forgiveness from the President, from my colleagues, and most of all from the American people, whom I respect deeply and whom I am so sorry to have wronged. Bless you all."
If he could choke something like this out, he might be left with some b*lls and a lot of respect from us all. However, apparently he is playing sandbox blackmail and if he doesn't get to be King then he is going to take all the Tinker Toys and go home to Mommy.
We can't feed the RATs. Stand with Lot over this issue, and later we can fight him about his lack of a spine.
Sinkspur your posts of Lots questions in return put everything in perspective and helped me sort this out in my head...thank you.
I'm still trying to figure out just what "our" agenda is.
It obviously is neither control of our borders from illegal invasion and intrusion, pushing through conservative Court nominees, nor budgetary limitations for the radical anti-American NEA, nor shrinking the federal government.
Anyone doing any destroying here it is Trent Lott.
Why should he care about the "good" of a party that thinks he's too racist to be Majority Leader?
I wouldn't. I'd tell the GOP to stick it.
Unfortunately, Lott is compromised, with his FBI file in a dem database. Bisexual stuff, while in college, as a male cheerleader.
You know, he does have that "sissy boy" look about him.
A request for clarification, as I often get my Bob Jones controversies oncfused: was it the tax-exempt status or the eligibility of Bob Jones students for federal financial aid and student loans that Lott supported? Or both?
You're crazy. That stuff would have been out six years ago, when he succeeded Dole as Majority Leader.
This is "George W. Bush dancing naked on a bar" crap. It never happened.
Lott's supporters seem to want it both ways.
They point out when taking the responsibility for this away from the President, and rightfully so, that ultimately, this decision lies with Lott's Senate colleagues. (While of course ignoring the fact that Lott is going to in all likelihood do what the President tells him to do, irregardless of any invocation of the separation of powers).
But the Dems can take a long walk off a short pier...this is a decision by Republican leaders about who is going to lead them and be one of the most prominent faces on our Party.
So Lott was saying, "I'm a racist and proud of it."? Is that what you're trying to imply?
Nice try, but no cigar.
Very well said.
"Once and for all?" Not under these circumstances.
This is a skirmish. Lott as Majority Leader is a liability in the greater battle.
I guess we need to change the discussion from him being a racist, because doing so would feed the RATs when/if he leaves. But if we make the focus on his flippant remarks we can get him to step down as ML without resigning his seat.
Dang...now I'm back on the fence.
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