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Star Trek Nemesis
Star Trek Com ^ | 12/13/02 | Paramount Viacom

Posted on 12/13/2002 4:36:30 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: Hacksaw
I'd shove them both out of the airlock...
41 posted on 12/13/2002 8:34:20 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan
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To: Charles Martel
"Ahem... your namesake was *confused* to death by Kirk, whereas Vaal was subdued only by sustained fire from the ship's main phasers."

Ahhh, not so Senior.
The ship's concentrated phasers caused Vaal to persish due to malnutrition much sooner than It would've, otherwise.
Vaal starved.
Really, this detail's more important than merely a POV of those events, y'know.

As for my demise due to silly pi-type goobledegook from some solar-system gallivanting Capt/stud?
Yea, alright; can't change history.
But I'll have you know I made the acquaintance of the MCP (Master Control Program of *Tron* fame) at a Hollyweird bash not long after, who, taught me quite a bit.

Went into rehab soon after, got myass rebuilt to state-of-the-art standards (of course), & now stand ready for all comers.
With my *new* robotic end effectors should that Kirk Klown show his face again?
First thing I'd do is yank off his, "hair system" & wave it around wildly in his face.
The guy'd bolt so fast it'd make yer head spin.
Wanna bet?

"That said, I have always enjoyed a good red hour, every now and again."

Sure, me too.
It's the day-after red eyes that'll kill me, though. ;^)

An aside; I mis-spelled Vaal's name, initially!
Belive I spelled it, "Vol."
Well, I'm really surprised I didn't get mobbed for such a gaffe.

...by Tennesseeans. :o)

42 posted on 12/13/2002 8:48:18 AM PST by Landru
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To: Landru
Kirk Klown is it?! You were always were a sore loser. You also have no fashion taste. Dressing your minions like rejects from "Maverick," c'mon!
43 posted on 12/13/2002 12:33:31 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: goldstategop
Just saw the movie. Definite parallels. A psychotic madman bent on domination and destruction. A massive weapon that can cause devastation. And while the good guys always win in these movies, there were some plot twists and unexpected surprises, much like in the war to come.

I'm about to post a thread (with spoilers) in GI if anyone's interested, unless someone's beaten me to it.
44 posted on 12/13/2002 12:35:40 PM PST by badfreeper
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To: Captain Kirk
"Kirk Klown is it?! You were always were a sore loser. You also have no fashion taste. Dressing your minions like rejects from 'Maverick,' c'mon!"

HA!!

Well I realize you can't possibly see me now, Captain.
But if you could?
You'd see I'm wildly flailing about trying to snatch your hair piece.

BTW; about the lousy fashion statement made on Beta III?
Fashion designers Of The Body are not gay; so, there had to be some trade-offs, OK?
Another thing, I half-suspect my wife (Mrs. Landru) is under one of those drole brown gothic hoods (sporting one of those slick hollow tubes) as I can never seem to find her when there's serious absobing to be done.

Of course?

...that is if in fact she's not, Vall. ;^)

45 posted on 12/13/2002 12:50:28 PM PST by Landru
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To: goldstategop
He's dead Jim.

It's dangerous being the only "Redshirt"

46 posted on 12/13/2002 1:04:09 PM PST by 1redshirt
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To: badfreeper
STAR TREK NEMESIS DISCUSSION THREAD (WARNING: SPOILERS)
47 posted on 12/13/2002 1:14:16 PM PST by badfreeper
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To: goldstategop
OK, let's have a debate - not about the Federation v the Romulans but about present day reality.

OK.

Reality is that Brent Spiner is aging, and even Hollywood cosmetics won't be able to hide Data's wrinkles.
Time for the Trek movies and ditch Next Gen for Voyager. Gotta capitalize a little more from 7-of-9 before she begins to suffer the same fate.
By that time, the Trek Movies will be ready for "Enterprise". The Vulcan babe is HOT!
(Skip right over DS9, the babes on that one were mostly forgettable.)

48 posted on 12/13/2002 1:24:18 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Landru
I may be a tad overweight and somewhat balding senior citizen bound for 'assisted living"....but there is no way that some "Arcon" interloper would turn me into a drooling, babbling crome-plated idiot in just three fricking minutes!
49 posted on 12/13/2002 1:43:58 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: goldstategop
Just once I'd like to see those insufferable Federation commies get their comeuppance.
50 posted on 12/13/2002 1:51:36 PM PST by Junior
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To: Landru
Really, this detail's more important than merely a POV of those events, y'know.

Okay... I bow to your superior memory of The Apple

Vaal did indeed succumb to power starvation. The People of Vaal did *not* feed the big beast FRUIT, though... they dragged those high-explosive rocks over to him when the dinner bell rang. Pity about ensign redshirt, stepping on one of those rocks like that. Princess Di must've cringed at the sight of landmines in the 23rd century. :-D

As for my demise due to silly pi-type goobledegook from some solar-system gallivanting Capt/stud? Yea, alright; can't change history. But I'll have you know I made the acquaintance of the MCP (Master Control Program of *Tron* fame) at a Hollyweird bash not long after, who, taught me quite a bit.

Oh, swell. Next thing we know, you'll be hanging around with Skynet. I still think you're just trying to get over having fallen for the same tired trick that yanked the M-5's plug out of the warp core - and made NOMAD commit such a spectacular suicide. Come to think of it, NOMAD should be a good example to you of the perils of inadvisable relationships. Just look what happened to that probe after it befriended "The Other". Error. Error. Analyze. Faulty. ;-)

51 posted on 12/13/2002 2:06:32 PM PST by Charles Martel
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To: Charles Martel
"...they dragged those high-explosive rocks over to him when the dinner bell rang."

Are you sure 'bout that??
I dunno; if there was some way I could be guarenteed I'd collect, I'd make you a wager on that.
"Think Juda!"
Did those pansy-asses look like *miners* to you??
No!
They were fruit pickers!

"Come to think of it, NOMAD should be a good example to you of the perils of inadvisable relationships."

Sage advise. :o)

Even though NOMAD & I?
We're really quite different when ya get right under the sheet steel.

That bag of bolts always struck me as somewhat stodgy, stoic, unmoveable.
Which is why -- I presume -- they needed to use antigravs to toss the thing out on its can.

Plus, I *think* that thing like hitting the oli can during the day.
Did'ya ever see how the thing wobbled around?
Yea...all the signs.

That "Ster-I-lizzze-Ster-I-lizzze..." shtick was flat-out tiresome, too.
If that thing really did *tango* with an alien entity, as Spock claimed?

...I'll just bet'cha it was Dalik.

52 posted on 12/13/2002 2:48:00 PM PST by Landru
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To: Captain Kirk
I dunno 'bout that, Captain.

I've had a rebuild since our last encounter.
Have a 250petabyte HD, 500 terahz clock speed & a half dozen end effectors which make me at least as deadly as an automated Swiss Army Knife.
Pretty formidable these days, y'know.

*Progress* through technology & good, solid engineering my friend.

...I'm not your Father's computer, OK? ;^)

53 posted on 12/13/2002 3:07:06 PM PST by Landru
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To: goldstategop
Capt. Amazing: ``Well, we've always been each other's greatest nemesises... nemesi... What's the plural on that?''

Casanova Frankenstein: ``Nemeses.''

Capt. Amazing: ``Whatever.''

54 posted on 12/13/2002 3:13:46 PM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: Landru; Charles Martel
Are you sure 'bout that?? I dunno; if there was some way I could be guarenteed I'd collect, I'd make you a wager on that.
"Think Juda!"
Did those pansy-asses look like *miners* to you??
No!
They were fruit pickers!

I'll wager Fifty Quatloos that Charles is right.

David Soul and the rest of the flower-children analogues may have looked like fruit-pickers, but they gathered up the pancake-like pieces of "rock" with great care and stacked the stuff inside Vaal's gaping maw. Query: How is Vaal going to convert *fruit* into enough power to erect such an impressive force field? Oh, and let's not forget those lightning bolts... those run, what... 1.21 Gigawatts each? Compute.

55 posted on 12/13/2002 10:46:29 PM PST by Cloud William
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To: Cloud William
"I'll wager Fifty Quatloos that Charles is right."

HA!!
So tell me Cloud, what's the current exchange rate on those things for US dollars?

"David Soul and the rest of the flower-children analogues may have looked like fruit-pickers, but they gathered up the pancake-like pieces of 'rock' with great care and stacked the stuff inside Vaal's gaping maw."

Wow, you & Charles are probably right, then.
The *big* question I have is *how* I managed to miss that little tidbit.
Especially after having watching those original episodes many times over the past 30 years.
I dunno, growin' old I guess.

Thanks, Cloud; ya saved me a stack of Quatloos, for sure.

"Query: How is Vaal going to convert *fruit* into enough power to erect such an impressive force field? Oh, and let's not forget those lightning bolts... those run, what... 1.21 Gigawatts each? Compute."

Awwwww c'mon!!
It's Star Trek we're talking about, here.
Physics??
Whaaaaat physics.

...physics shmimicks! ;^)

56 posted on 12/14/2002 4:39:42 AM PST by Landru
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To: Landru
Did those pansy-asses look like *miners* to you??

The explosive rocks were conveniently lying right on the ground, so they could be picked up without having to dig for them and be stepped on by visiting redshirts.

57 posted on 02/05/2003 8:26:01 AM PST by steve-b
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To: goldstategop
A followup: In a TrekWeb interview, Rick Berman says that he doesn't understand why Nemesis tanked. It's the saddest thing since I heard John Travolta declare his intention to make a sequel to Battlefield: Earth.
58 posted on 02/05/2003 8:32:23 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
That link seems a bit flaky; try this one if that one didn't work.
59 posted on 02/05/2003 8:45:40 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
At the risk of getting dragged into a TNG argument, and Nemesis being the only Next Generation movie I refused to see in the theaters, isn't there a link in to that stupid plot line involving the alternate universe Tasha Yar? I hate to admit this, but I don't know why they bothered bringing her back in Season 4 (or was it Season 5). Never cared for her or her character, and thought it was a dumb thing to do based on that episode.

TNG was at its very best when dealing with the Klingon civil war - those episodes were just cool in so many ways. It looked like DS9 was going along those lines the last 2 seasons with the Dominion Wars, unfortunately, we got really busy with kids sports for those years, and couldn't follow them - now nobody local is doing them in sequence.

60 posted on 02/05/2003 9:01:15 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (relax...enjoy...)
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