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Steering children back to straight
The Washington Times ^ | December 12, 2002 | Josh Earl

Posted on 12/12/2002 5:40:27 AM PST by FormerLib

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:59:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: FormerLib
2 a : SEX - "the feminine gender"

Yep. Ignorant AND too embarassed to admit you're wrong.
101 posted on 12/13/2002 4:37:50 PM PST by flyervet
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To: FormerLib
Well, I'm a little reluctant to say he's being proven correct. Who knows whether the kids he's worked with would really have become homosexual? That's the problem with this kind of work. Nobody can accurately predict how someone will be when they mature. But my guess is he's doing good work.
103 posted on 12/13/2002 4:50:53 PM PST by gitmo
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To: JoshGray
Please pardon my ignorance, but what the heck's a crush video? I'm sure it has nothing to do with kids falling in puppy-love with their teachers.
104 posted on 12/13/2002 4:58:11 PM PST by gitmo
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To: gitmo
Crush videos are fetishist videos of women in high-heels stomping on small animals. They were banned a few years ago.
105 posted on 12/13/2002 7:11:53 PM PST by JoshGray
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To: flyervet
"the feminine gender"

If you weren't a fool, you'd realize that feminine means having female qualities. It doesn't mean the same as female. You're trying to make the "feminine gender" be equivalent to the "female sex" and it just ain't the same.

Go listen to your George Michael CD's!

106 posted on 12/13/2002 9:16:22 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: Conservative Druze
Wait, are these people saying playing with dolls makes a kid gay?

Not at all. They are saying that a male child that prefers dressing Barbies in women's clothing to other types of play may have a problem that warrants investigation.

107 posted on 12/13/2002 9:17:49 PM PST by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
Humans are far to complex to have their psyches reduced to a collection of cause-and-effect resonses.

Oh please, I have heard hundred of pointee heads tell me sexual behavior is all genetics. We are simple creatures with no free will.

109 posted on 12/14/2002 7:34:59 AM PST by Always Right
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To: FormerLib
One must consider that the described behavior actually is socially useful. Those who in ever greater numbers are being elevated into positions of power require pleasure boys to ease the burdens of office. The described kids are those who shall provide that "need."
111 posted on 12/14/2002 7:42:11 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
not provide but fill. I'm "outa here." Syntax and spelling gone.
112 posted on 12/14/2002 7:46:31 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: madg
It's good to be suspicious because there is no evidence that ANYONE has EVER changed his or her sexual orientation as a result of the touted "therapy."

That's more evidence than shows that sexual orientation is genetics, but that hasn't stopped that myth from being pushed. Since 'sexual orientation' is impossible to define, it is makes it impossible to prove it has changed. How many women does a guy have to sleep with to prove he is no longer 'gay'? There are guys that go on to live normal lives after being 'gay', but do they ever get rid of all their sexual fantasies? Probably not. A guy may hate his ex-wife, but he still might fantasize about her at times. Medical schools teach that everybody is gay to a certain level, and they push a scale from 1-6. We will never solve the genetics vs. environment debate in any behavior, but there should be no debate that both are factors. Does therapy change behavior? Of course it does.

113 posted on 12/14/2002 7:54:14 AM PST by Always Right
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To: madg
And behavior is not orientation... unless you ask the "ex-gay" industry. Why do you think they are universally criticized? They're LYING. "Look, he stopped having gay sex! Hooray! He's ex-gay!" No he's not, he's just as gay as ever... he's just not as active.

So the gay-activists define 'sexual orientation' based on 'feelings'. What a definitive definition. Just how does an ex-gayer prove his feelings to the gay-activists? Again, it is impossible. The gay-activists position is ridiculous. The position of the 'ex-gay industry' is based on definable behavior.

115 posted on 12/14/2002 8:27:38 AM PST by Always Right
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To: FormerLib
"The main thing that is wrong is the idea that there is something 'wrong' with homosexuality. . ."

Could it be considered wrong to put a bridge together using two bolts, two nuts? Same thing with putting a society together using two males or two females.

116 posted on 12/14/2002 8:27:42 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: Always Right
The gay-activists position is ridiculous.

That ain't the half of it!

117 posted on 12/14/2002 8:35:42 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: madg
If this is as widespread as is often claimed, surely SOMEONE can show me compelling evidence that it actually happens.

I understand that Dr. Spitzer did a study earlier this year confirming it. Your welcome.

118 posted on 12/14/2002 8:39:34 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
Whoops! That's supposed to be "You're welcome!" Sigh, and I know how bad grammar really annoys their fastidious nature.
119 posted on 12/14/2002 8:42:49 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: JoshGray
What do you care what someone does with the person they love?

Sex is the most selfish act of all; to confuse this with love is a problem for both straight and queer immature people.

Homosexual activity is still a major health risk despite all the cautions of a concerned core group of professionals and advocates of those who suffer the consequences of STD's.

It is the politics of "queerism" that sours the stomache.

120 posted on 12/14/2002 9:20:26 AM PST by Old Professer
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