Jesus Endorses Abortion?

IntellectualConservative.com ^ | December 10, 2002 | J. Grant Swank

[God'sgrrl]

Read the Absurd...

[Tai_Chung]

Next, Planned Parenthood can declare themselves as a church and ask for religious protection.

[polemikos]

"Jesus was for peace on earth, justice on earth, compassion on earth, mercy on earth, and choice on earth."

I gotta say the social justice themes (coming out of liberal interpretation of VC2) continue to give me the willies.

[goodnesswins]

HA...for some, PP is ALREADY a church - worshiping the religion of Abortion!

[polemikos]

Next, Planned Parenthood can declare themselves as a church and ask for religious protection.

Never happen. They'd lose their access to schools. ;-)

[onedoug]

Mary Chose Life.

[azhenfud]

Another thread of the matter:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/800374/posts

[PaxMacian]

Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Psalm 139:13
For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
14 :
I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 :
My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 :
Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

Galatians 1:15
But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,…

Isaiah 49:1
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

[Burlem]

I find the actions offensive, (isn't that the phrase of the day) perhaps a conservative ACLU group can file charges of hate crime agains christianity!

[bobg]

I am troubled by a question... I am against abortion of any kind, but I have asked the following to many pastors and priests. The millions of babies that are aborted will go straight to Heaven. If they are born maybe 15 to 20 percent will be "saved" and go to Heaven, when you consider the anti-Christian attitudes that are growing. Does anyone have an answer to this questions?

[GilesB]

Our life is given us, by God, in order that we might learn to love him and know him and enter into his presence with joy. Heaven is being eternally in the presence of God and in fellowship with him.

I will not pretend to know God's dispensation for the unborn babies - but I know that his will is for us to know him and to love him and have fellowship with him for all eternity.

God is just and merciful AND he wants fellowship with his people.

Maybe it takes all of us, including those poor, poor babies, to make heaven complete.

[GilesB]

Notice how they twist truth by equating miscarriage and abortion? Notice how they assume that "no damage" means the woman is fine (funny, I always though it applied to the miscarried child as well)?

This is a total perversion. In one thing they are right: The critical moment is when God breathes life into a body and it becomes a living soul. As soon as they can prove, with complete assurance that this moment is at birth (can't be done if John recognized the voice of Mary before he was born), I will cease my struggles against abortion.

I don't pretend to know - all I know is that the child is God's creation before it even exists (they even admit this). Far be it from me to treat such a "fearsomely" made creation casually!

[netmilsmom]

I am not a pastor, I am not "born again". I am Roman Catholic. However, I am going to take a shot at this question, from what I have learned. We are all a part of God's plan and when one person is taken out of the mix, the plan is no longer working the way God intended. In other words, the person who was aborted, while not personally saved, is meant to shape another's life, perhaps the mother. By the same token, if the intention is to get as many people to heaven as possible, why do it only in the womb. Kill all children that are "showing signs of trouble". They are still innocent and will get to heaven before they make the wrong choices. If the rationalization is killing the pre-born, then the post-born should have the same consideration. Is that what you were looking for? Hope it helps!

[Texans]

My understanding is that we (christians) are here to reflect His love to a lost and dieing world. As we say in church "He gave His life for us, To give His life to us, To live His life thru us"...

[r9etb]

""Even as a minister I am careful what I presume Jesus would do if he were alive today, but one thing I know from the Bible is that Jesus was not against women having a choice in continuing a pregnancy," he continued."

See here for a selection of Gospel passages containing "child" or "children". Gee, Pastor, I don't see anything about Jesus supporting the killing of babies.

Perhaps the most relevant: People were bringing little children to Jesus to have him touch them, but the disciples rebuked them. When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these (Mark 10:13-14)

It's hard to imagine a greater hindrance to a child than being chooped up and sucked out in accordance with Pastor Bilge-o's "choice."

[beckett]

About twelve years ago a feminist theologian at the Union Theological Seminary, whose name escapes me at the moment, declared that she was writing a book about abortion from the Christian perspective. She wanted to demonstrate that Jesus Christ was a feminist who would support abortion if he were alive today.

I waited a long time for the book to appear on the shelves of my local bookstore. When it didn't arrive, I decided to drop Union Theological Seminary a line and see if I could find out what happened. Turns out the prospective author got "bogged down in research" and decided to scrap the effort. I took that to mean that nowhere in the teachings of Jesus Christ could our feminist theologian find credible support for the killing a helpless child in the womb.

[Free_at_last_-2001]