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Suit Against Cheney Task Force Dismissed
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| 12/9/02
| PETE YOST
Posted on 12/09/2002 11:18:22 AM PST by finnman69
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EAT KAA KAA RATS!
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posted on
12/09/2002 11:18:40 AM PST
by
finnman69
To: finnman69
Excellent! This calls for a "Big Time" Bump!
To: finnman69
Bump for integrity and honor..........
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posted on
12/09/2002 11:21:28 AM PST
by
OldFriend
To: finnman69
This is great news! After all we can have the American public really know what goes on in DC so they are now protected. It is for the publics own good.
NOTE: If the roles were reversed and it was a DEM in the White House quite a few of you that are happy with this would be very upset. Think about how upset the GOP was when the Hillary 'HealthCare' taskforce info was being kept secret.
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posted on
12/09/2002 11:22:40 AM PST
by
Karsus
To: finnman69
"No court has ever before granted what the comptroller general seeks," wrote Bates, an appointee of President Bush. Obiously politically motivated.... *rolls eyes*
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posted on
12/09/2002 11:27:56 AM PST
by
smith288
To: Karsus
bump
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posted on
12/09/2002 11:28:36 AM PST
by
not-alone
To: Karsus
Bump!!!
No doubt the Wash Post/NY Times front page headline will be "RATs LAWSUIT DISMISSED AS A FRAUD AND WASTE"... NOT!!!
To: Karsus
NOTE: If the roles were reversed and it was a DEM in the White House quite a few of you that are happy with this would be very upset. Think about how upset the GOP was when the Hillary 'HealthCare' taskforce info was being kept secret. I couldnt have cared less. It was a failure from the start.
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posted on
12/09/2002 11:29:01 AM PST
by
smith288
To: Karsus
Who says we really know what goes on in DC anyway? They media simply report the "facts" through their own liberal prisms just to manipulate public opinion for the left.
I'm all for open government, but I'm also for a fair and balanced press. Right now, the latter is of more concern to me than the former. Gov't can't get by with SQUAT! (a good thing) The media needs more watching than the government in 2002. Sad.
I should clarify: The liberals in gov't get all kinds of cover from the media. The rule is: Lapdog for the left; attack dog for the right.
To: finnman69
This is the correct result, issued by a fine new judge, Judge John Bates.
Judge Bates worked on Ken Starr's team a few years ago, by the way. He's a very good legal mind.
To: finnman69
"The case filed by Comptroller General David Walker against the vice president is an unprecedented act that raises serious separation-of-powers issues between the executive and legislative branches of government.
"No court has ever before granted what the comptroller general seeks," wrote Bates, an appointee of President Bush.
Thanks for the good news.
Comptroller General David Walker is a former senior partner for Arthur Andersen and was appointed by the Clintoon. This attempt of his was unconstitutional and was purely political.
Let's see an investigation of every audit he has been in charge of to see how many of his AA buddies and former AA Buddies like him have profited from a waste of our tax $ due his control of the GSA!
To: Karsus
Think about how upset the GOP was when the Hillary 'HealthCare' taskforce info was being kept secret. Maybe so, but I don't recall the GOP dragging the Executive Branch into court.
To: smith288
I agree.
And this shouldn't even be a political issue.
No matter which party has the White House, the President and the Vice President are allowed to consult confidentially in the course of arriving at their policy positions when they use these strictly White House panels to inform themselves.
Just as surely as a judge can consult with a law clerk or a Senator can consult with their aide, without a whole bunch of lawyers chasing after everyone.
To: Grampa Dave
Good point!! Walker is a has-been hack.
To: finnman69
The ruling:
www.dcd.uscourts.gov/02-340.pdf "III. CONCLUSION The parties have presented significant statutory and constitutional issues that, on the surface, appear in need of judicial resolution. However, the judiciary must refrain from "deal[ing] with [] difficult and sensitive issue[s] of constitutional adjudication on the complaint of one who does not allege 'a personal stake in the outcome of the controversy.'" Schlesinger, 418 U.S. at 224 (quoting Baker v. Carr, 369 U.S. 186, 204 (1962)).
Here, the Comptroller General has suffered no personal injury as a private citizen, and any institutional injury exists only in his capacity as an agent of Congress an entity that itself has issued no subpoena to obtain the information and given no expression of support for the pursuit of this action.
The absence of congressional endorsement for the investigatory and enforcement efforts of its agent especially where this lawsuit has profound implications for Congress's own investigatory and enforcement powers leaves to "the realm of speculation whether there is a real need to exercise the power of judicial review," id. at 221, and deprives this action of the "'concrete adverseness . . . upon which the court so largely depends for illumination of difficult constitutional questions,'" id. at 224 (quoting Baker, 369 U.S. at 204)).
The historical record, moreover, does not suggest that plaintiff's "attempt to litigate this dispute at this time and in this form" is consistent with historical experience. See Raines, 521 U.S. at 829."
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posted on
12/09/2002 11:34:53 AM PST
by
mrsmith
Comment #16 Removed by Moderator
To: smith288
"Think about how upset the GOP was when the Hillary 'HealthCare' taskforce info was being kept secret."
Apples and Oranges!
Hitlery WAS a private Citizen who was given a whole bunch of Federal Dollars and then spent them in secret.
Chaney is an Officer of the Federal Gov'mt and has the right to have meetings in private!
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posted on
12/09/2002 11:36:39 AM PST
by
TRY ONE
To: FreeTheHostages
This political ruse was so obvious and destined for failure. Of course the case was not reviewed until after the elections to mazimize the potential damage to Cheney and the Republicans.
Comment #19 Removed by Moderator
To: finnman69
BOOM!GAME SET MATCH TO TEAM BUSH!!!!
Who says there ain't such a thing as separation of powers?????
Good job, judge. Maybe you're one of the few who respect the Constitution!
The way our Judiciary goes, you'd think many never looked at the Constitution past their first year of law school.
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