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CA: Who takes a budget hit?
SJ Mercury News ^ | 12/8/02 | Phil Yost - Op/Ed

Posted on 12/08/2002 1:04:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:30:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Joe Hadenuf
I consider it my second job to avoid their criminal taxes.

Living here makes the "second job" you describe worth the trouble. If we have to work a little harder at it for awhile, so be it. Everything in life isn't just Democrat and Republican.

21 posted on 12/08/2002 3:27:31 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: NormsRevenge
The cost of the services the state currently provides is running ahead of the revenues it currently receives by at least $21 billion. As that amount is about 25 percent of the general fund

The simplest solution would be to take each section of the budget, divide by four, then subtract this amount from the amount this budget item might be currently spending.

Might this cause some 'pain', certainly, but trying to foist a socialist utopia upon the world should be painful. Like giving birth. Especially when it's the fifth largest economy in the world. "Hey now, that's one BIG baby comrade sister!".

An out-of-control socialist government will ultimately destroy the incentives needed to produce the goods and services necessary for a thriving economy (in the absence of slavery re: china). Just as parasitism will in the long run, destroy the host.

Well-run businesses would use more complex methods in dealing with debt problems- no doubt, however the simple accounting correction mentioned above, if applied to a state budget would suffice.

This will not happen as state governments do not at all reflect what one might term 'well-run', since no incentive exists for them to behave as such. Expect the earlier mentioned taxes and some others to increase (along with the usual raid on local governments causing them to jack fees) until their needs are met (for this budget cycle, anyway).

In the biological world, hosts adapt defenses against parasites such that they may co-exist in a manner that doesn't threaten the survival of the host. In the case of the private vs public spending of resources there doesn't appear to be much in the way of a 'defense' when, as we see, from one-fourth to one-third of what was collected must now be raised again to fully fund public sector consumption.

Leaving the state is not an option to me. Besides, what with this state's ability to generate 'trends' elsewhere it'd likely be futile. Instead, I'd like help with strengthening the host's ability to ward off parasites. Two ballot box losses, when combined with soapbox losses (media presstitutes) appear to indicate that the solution to unrestrained, unchecked government growth may only be forthcoming from the cartridge box. And then we have the 9th Circuit telling us that the 2nd ammendment is not an individual right, but one only the states may enjoy. How timely. My prediction: a HUGE rise in militia membership (if that's what's needed to 'qualify' for gun ownership).

22 posted on 12/08/2002 3:46:25 PM PST by budwiesest
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To: Dog Gone
Granted it is a lot but that figure not only includes K-12 in the country's most populous state, but also 9 (soon to be 10) UC campuses in addition to 23 California State Colleges/universities...some of the finest in the country I might add.
23 posted on 12/08/2002 4:02:35 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: NormsRevenge
Maybe all they're really saying is that the budget-balancing process should not be all cuts and no revenue increases

Not only should it all be cuts but these cuts should also extend to taxes.

I'd like yo see a 40% cut in the state budget. 25% to solve the short term, fiscal crisis, 10% to allow a modest, across the board, cut in personal income taxes and 5% held as reserve.

After a 40% cut the California budget would still be among the largest in the US.

24 posted on 12/08/2002 4:22:03 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: John Jorsett
I hope your not serious about moving to Mexico. Kidnapping
of "gringo's" is the latest cottage industry. Also, take
a trip to Mexico City and observe all the folks with
amputated legs, arms, etc. They aren't allowed to have
guns but machetes are in heavy use.
25 posted on 12/08/2002 4:48:20 PM PST by upcountryhorseman
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To: lewislynn
Since I'm a graduate from a California university, I'm not going to quibble with your depiction. I don't think I would anyway.

But I'm not sure the population of the state has anything to do with what percentage of the state budget should be spent on education. California's revenues are large because of the population. Texas is not as big in population as California, but it has similar demographics. 30% of the Texas budget is spent on education, with better results in the K-12 level.

I would suspect that there is more waste in the California system, although I don't really know.

26 posted on 12/08/2002 4:57:17 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: NormsRevenge
They plan to raise vehicle registration fees by 4 billion dollars. This will just lower business income taxes by lowering profits by raising business expense by that amount. I'm not sure but I think you can still deduct vehicle license fees on your personal taxes as well. Many small businesses require a large fleet of service trucks and vans.
27 posted on 12/08/2002 4:57:23 PM PST by tubebender
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To: NormsRevenge
I just think it's funny that the CSEA (California State Employees Union) endorsed Gray Davis and now THOUSANDS of state workers are going to lose their jobs. Don't you think that's funny?! For victory & freedom!!!
28 posted on 12/08/2002 6:29:08 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: tubebender
Only Jenny Opopreza could cook up an idea to kill small business in California and throw millions out of work. The good news is once all the middle class start fleeing California on account of the hopeless situation here, this state's unwarranted influence in Congress will begin shrinking. Personally even though I live here, there's not much to miss as its presently constituted, about California.
29 posted on 12/08/2002 6:58:37 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: Dog Gone
I would suspect that there is more waste in the California system, although I don't really know.

I won't argue with you on that. It's definitely top heavy. The budget for the 9 campus UC system alone (not including 23 State colleges) is $3.15 billion.

I only wanted to not apologize for, but clear the assumption, if there was one, that "education spending" in California is not just K-12.

Since I'm a graduate from a California university

It wasn't one of those unaccredited law schools then?...LOL!

30 posted on 12/08/2002 7:11:22 PM PST by lewislynn
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31 posted on 12/08/2002 10:09:39 PM PST by cartoonistx
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